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  1. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #1 Napolis, Apr 23, 2012
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    Several things to think about. Fire Suppression system are very important in all cars. Miura's have a design issue that owners should be aware of. The Carbs are positioned in a way that the gaskets tend to dry out when the car is not used regulary. If they leak they leak right on to the exhaust headers and fires aren't surprising. Many classic cars that are not used regulary suffer from carbs leaking. You really have to check this out often and pre flight a classic car before setting off after a period of non use.

    Joe was this one once owned by Gary? If so I drove it and a friend almost bought it for 20K
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  2. Peter K.

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    I've always been curious, is there a fix? Different gaskets or something sheilding the exhaust? Or just replace as regular maintinance and drive often?
     
  3. silver1331

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    shame...beautiful looking miura. that color is fantastic!
     
  4. Napolis

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    I'm not sure. With a bit of re engineering you could but that's a slippery slope original wise.

    That said the trick is to check it and use it regularly.

    Webbers that aren't used aren't happy especially side drafts.
     
  5. garybobileff

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    The carbs do not drip on the headers, but drip on the spark plugs and wire connections that sit just below the carbs. I have modified dozens of Miura's, over the years, to prevent fires, and have been totally successful ( to my knowledge) and installed the Halon suppression systems as well, just in case. A very necessary item, on all Miura's, in my opinion.
    Gary Bobileff
     
  6. staatsof

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    What an awful photo ... :(

    And if you don't carry a decent sized halon extinguisher you'll be very, very sorry one day.

    I carry a 5lb one and had to use it once. Fortunately it wasn't a gasoline fire.
     
  7. joe sackey

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    Jim, carburetors mounted directly above spark plug ports is the stuff of genius :)

    What were they thinking? Gasoline + spark = fire!!

    Anyway, in all my time behind the wheel of 5 different Miuras I owned I never had a fire, BUT, I did check the carbs before driving. Regular exercise is indeed the other key.
     
  8. TheMayor

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    This is terribly sad.

    But, I can't tell you how many people think that classic cars are just like modern cars only "older".

    Clearly, they are not.

    I'm sure this car will be repaired and I agree with Napolis that fire extinguisher suppression systems should be installed on classics like this.
     
  9. xs10shl

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    Carburetors are mounted in precarious positions in most cars, Wasn't it more an issue with the particular carburetor, and not the design?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think its fixable by switching to a different carburetor (and adding a pressure regulator under all circumstances). Some aspiring Porsche aftermarket providers have also created an EFI triple-barrel, which I've been tempted to experiment with.
     
  10. garybobileff

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    The Carbs are fine, it's a system design problem. There are a number of system modifications done to remove the problem areas. Fuel injection is a cure to this problem, but injection has trouble maintaining the value of the car when installed!
    Gary Bobileff
     
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    It is a good idea, to install a fire suppression system.
     
  12. ClassicFerrari

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    Anyone know what happened to the car?

    So sad to see...
     
  13. xs10shl

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    Good to know- I keep bringing up the EFI once every few years in the hope of convincing someone else to give it a try, LOL. Perhaps I'll have to bite the bullet and try it myself.
     
  14. alberto

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    Gary B didn't you have one that someone had installed injectors on and reverted it back to carb?
     
  15. Night life

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    That made me sick to my stomach :(
     
  16. f308jack

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    That photo is painful to watch.

    If such things can be prevented from happening by mounting FI, I'd say it's a lot better to take a little punnishment on the resale value, rather than not having a car to sell at all.
     
  17. Albert-LP

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    terrible picture: what a disaster.
     
  18. staatsof

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    Japan?
     
  19. Napolis

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    You could easily do it in a way that could be changed back if anyone wanted to without damage.
     
  20. Albert-LP

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    Jim's words are full of wisdom, but i think is enough to check carbs and fuel lines every week before and after you start the engine, even if Miura was not a flawnless car at all.
     
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    Yes, it's the 3rd or 4th time this pic popped up here.
     

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