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  1. Marcello

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    Nice Weber shot! Any chassisnumberplates shots as well?

    Ciao!
    Marcello
     
  2. Dinkel

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  3. Marcello

    Marcello Formula 3

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    #3278 Marcello, Feb 9, 2008
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  4. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
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    the 2 cars with the "Flower-Power"-background are exhibited by French restorer Le Coque (correct spelling?)! The red car was on display with a dealer that had no name on his stand. I was there quite early when the show was open only for the press!

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
  5. GIOTTO

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    Carrosserie André LECOQ...
     
  6. Chaos

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    now that looks like #4088 - the mimran post production (but still factory) svj
     
  7. Jota 5084

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    This car was in Sweden some years ago, special suede interior and special colour from Mauri.
     
  8. Marcello

    Marcello Formula 3

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    #3284 Marcello, Feb 10, 2008
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    You can replace the word "special" by "horrible",
    This car is claimed to been owned by one of the popgroup ABBA members,
    is there any proof of this? The car is #CLA12484

    Fortunatly the new owner did some work on the car, and it looks a lot better these days.
    The new interior is not exactly how Paratelli should have done it, but it's an improvement at least.
    The wheels are also repainted back to silver.

    Ciao!
    Marcello
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  9. raymondQV

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    The wine red wheels were better also with the Koenig running boards the car looked more aggressive, the hide is indeed a huge improvement.
     
  10. JF28

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    No shots, but the chassis number of this Miura P 400 S is #4124.
     
  11. Dinkel

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    The car pops flames at idle and goes very well. The cam is a bit hotter than the standard one, pumps about 425 brake.

    Interior is - each to their own - different. Inside stereo is period top notch.

    The white 5000S is loud, spot on and a hoot to drive:
    http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=63&t=193096
     
  12. Marcello

    Marcello Formula 3

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    Hi Albert,

    I will react to this on a Countach thead, this is a little off topic in the Miura section.
    We are already on the wrong track here, sorry!

    Ciao!
    Marcel
     
  13. 2NA

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  14. Maranello Guy

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    Yes I did , now I am sure he's alive and drives Miura :D
     
  15. toni992

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    #3291 toni992, Feb 10, 2008
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    Today’s entry is something for the Miura experts. Almost all Miura front lids have two radiator exhaust air grills made of numerous shaped sheet metal parts and spacer that are held together with screws/rivets. One of the units can be opened in order to access the fuel fill cap. The first picture (tanks to: http://web-cars.com/miura/index.php) below depicts this variant.
    I have noticed that Miura SV # 5054 and 5106 have a different variant that is most probably a cast aluminum version. The second picture below is Miura SV #5054 that has this rare variant. Could this have been an attempt by Lamborghini to lower the production costs on this particular part or is there another explanation for this change?
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  16. Marcello

    Marcello Formula 3

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    Very "sharp" observation Antoine.

    The only thing I can think of is that it perhaps fur safety reasons.
    The metal sheets could be very sharp for pedestrians when hit over 230 km/h.

    Both cars you mention are SV's delivered to Germany.
    For example, a German Ferrari 328 can also be recognised by gauze for the air intakes.
    This is also for safety reasons, I was told.
    On the other hand, if this was the reason, there should be a lot more Miura's with that rare veriant...
    strange...

    Ciao,
    Marcello
     
  17. raymondQV

    raymondQV F1 Rookie

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    #5054 was the Geneva Show car of 1972 and delivered to Foitek who sold it to the german owner, this car still belonged to the first owner till last year.
     
  18. Marcello

    Marcello Formula 3

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    Yes, I know via Foitek but first owner was German, and the car could have been adjusted for German laws to get registration.
    I had the pleasure of driving with Herr Hinghaus in this SV during an ILOC meeting.
    A ride I will never forget!
    Where did the car go? Stayed in Germany?
     
  19. mcg

    mcg Formula Junior

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    Artcurial Lot 39. 1969 Mira P400S, #4124. estimate 220,000-280,000 euros.

    Achieved 320,664 euros. Includes buyer's premium and taxes.
     
  20. bb4635

    bb4635 Formula Junior

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    I'm surprised by this very high price having seen the car before the auction begins, saturday evening.

    Some very odd things on this car presented as an original P400 S:
    Normal engine for this car is #30394 (if chassis #4124 is correct, bertone product number = 393...) ; fitted in is engine n° 2266 (from Miura P400 Chassis #3691, bertone number 257)

    Letters stamped on the first line of the riveted chassis plate are "P490M" , normally, it may have been "P400 XN 493" (?)

    Numbers stamped on the windscreen bay are " *394* " ....

    Numbers stamped on the verso side of the rear 6 slats is 644...

    and the chassis number on the welded chassis plate (painted red) is no more readable - erased...

    also noticed that :
    - Passenger handle on the center console is a P400 type
    - Roof console also P400 (small one)
    - Interior door trim P400 also : manual windows, leather grab handle - no armrest, and steel trim around upholstery painted black.
    - boot lid frame : P400 type (small section round tube)
    - steering wheel P400S
    - rear engine cover release handle : single handle, on driver's side = P400S
    - aftermarket licence rear plate light holders
    - black painted rear P400S type exhaust tips
    - P400-S bonnet with eye-lashes but mounted with a fiberglass SV front bumper and very strange turn lights (and also starnge fog lamps)
    - etc,...

    - nota : vented discs are mounted all around.

    - Metal shield under the two front rectangular grilles of the front bonnet is missing ( the one with a hole to allow acces to the fuel tank cap), as are also many other detail parts.

    NB: car is french registered (75 - Paris)

    etc,....

    Is the auction result confirmed for this car ?
     
  21. 2NA

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    LOL!

    I think the sharp edges of the grille would be the least of your worries.
     
  22. mcg

    mcg Formula Junior

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    The auction result I posted is from Artcurial's website. I do not have first hand verification of the sale.
     
  23. joe sackey

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    No Raymond, the Bobnar silver SV was 4948, sold to Yokohama in Japan, now at Bobileff's in California being restored . It will be shipped back to Yokohama... 5078 stayed with Ferdosian till he sold it in 2004 after Salvatore Diomante restored it...

    Joe
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  24. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ
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    German specification.

    Joe
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