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  1. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

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    #8551 miurasv, Jun 20, 2011
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    I have known of your passion, interest and vast knowledge of Miuras, and in particular the SV, for quite some time. To have owned 5 SVs, and the ones you have owned are very important cars, is quite astonishing. The pleasure you must have felt in owning these cars must have been immense but it must also have been extremely painfull to have let go of any one of these cars as I know we sometimes must. You've played a major role in satisfying and propelling people's hunger for Miura knowledge and sharing your enthusiasm for the car and for that I take my hat off to you and thank you.
     
  2. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    #8552 joe sackey, Jun 20, 2011
    Thank you very much for your kind words. We have been very fortunate indeed. My preference for a 'revolving' garage is exactly what lead me into this business. The Miura has caused my wife & I to meet many people, the vast majority of them great. Fortunately, we have some great clients, so most of the cars exist today in good hands, and we have no regrets. Thank you for bringing up the topic.
     
  3. miurasv

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    #8553 miurasv, Jun 20, 2011
    Thanks, Joe. Just edited my post to say that you've also propelled people's interest and hunger for Miura knowledge too.
     
  4. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

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    #8554 miurasv, Jun 20, 2011
    I'm sure you're right, Sab. I have a 1/43 Legend Miura which looks very similar but perhaps it's not as good. I think it may have been a lot cheaper but perhaps I just got a bargain. Yes, please let me know if you come across a white Auto Art SV.
     
  5. Miura Jota

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    #8555 Miura Jota, Jun 20, 2011
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    I have the Auto Art bianco/gold model and it's highly recommendable

    Is it safe to say this Auto Art is a replica of Elton John's Car ?

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/martin_miura/5705074197/in/photostream
    http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6672/aa1nj.jpg
    http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/8201/hoods.jpg

    I Got my Bianco SV from this store and they currently still have it in stock

    www.modelissimo.de

    Here's the demo image
    https://ssl.kundenserver.de/modelissimo.de/Shop/Bilder/27366.jpg
     
  6. joe sackey

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    #8556 joe sackey, Jun 21, 2011
    Not necessarily.

    For example, it could just as likely be a representation of 4822, The Last Miura Built, also Bianco with Nero, in Right-hand-drive guise.
     
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    #8557 spadge1976, Jun 21, 2011
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    I've got both the Kyosho and the AUTOart SV. The Kyosho is better (better shape, photoetched badges, better wheels, extra details like seatbelts and Michelin tires) and would be almost perfect apart from the rear wheel issue.

    Whoever sculpted the AUTOart didn't quite get the shape dead on - which I believe Kyosho did.

    The most accurate representation of the car in 1/18 is therefore the Kyosho P400 and S, which dont have the rear track issues.

    The wheels are a bit better positioned on the AUTOart but still not perfect - I took mine apart and re positioned the wheels, widening the rear track. Sadly I can't get the wheels off the Kyosho to perform the same fix.

    Kyosho on left, modded AUTOart on the right:
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  8. miurasv

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    #8558 miurasv, Jun 21, 2011
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    It's a shame they can't get the way the wheels fill out the arches right on the SV. This is very important on an SV and it must be to you as well as you wouldn't have gone to the trouble of repositioning those on your Auto Art otherwise and it looks much better for it. Tires on the SV were Pirelli with HS CN12 on the rear.
     
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    #8560 joe sackey, Jun 21, 2011
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    #8561 Miura Jota, Jun 21, 2011
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    you forgot to mention Kyosho reproduced accurately the gas cap under the grill
    but then Again Kyosho doesn't offer BIANCO whereas Auto Art does ...

    which is a shame considering the world is full of red ordinary cars


    speaking of filling Gas under the grill
    never seen this old lovely period picture before

    http://fotos.subefotos.com/f1fec1813a037343a102e8af6e8a0faco.jpg

    I love period pics ! :D
     
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  13. miurasv

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    #8563 miurasv, Jun 21, 2011
    I saw this too and the car was described as a P400S. Is this the SV that was originally lime green UK registration JLL 838K ex Ron Stern (later Simon Kidston) or the SV that was auctioned recently?
     
  14. joe sackey

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    #8564 joe sackey, Jun 21, 2011
    No, this car is a P400S, the 458th Miura built, made to look like an SV. It is chassis number #4329 fitted with engine #30456.

    FWIW this car was completed on January the 20th 1970.

    Indeed it was originally green, and last I checked it had the UK-registration WPU 100 on it.
     
  15. miurasv

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    #8565 miurasv, Jun 21, 2011
    Thanks, Joe. I think I may have seen this car in a Central London car showroom a few years ago not far from Bond Street.
     
  16. joe sackey

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    #8566 joe sackey, Jun 21, 2011
    I don't know if the SV conversion was done at Sant Agata or not, or when it was done.
     
  17. miurasv

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    #8567 miurasv, Jun 21, 2011
    You know lots, Joe. When were the factory doing SV conversions? Would the changes just have been SV body conversions or would they go as far as to split the engine and gearbox? The chassis would have had to have been changed for the thicker gauge steel as well as lots of other detail things as you well know. Would the factory allow an SV badge on a car that's a S underneath?
     
  18. joe sackey

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    #8568 joe sackey, Jun 21, 2011
    The factory fully upgraded a few cars from P400 and P400S to SV in the production period. After that it was mostly selling hoods & wheels to make earlier cars look like later ones.

    In that period the factory allowed a lot of things, the aforementioned included :)
     
  19. miurasv

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    #8569 miurasv, Jun 21, 2011
    Very interesting.
     
  20. miurasv

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    #8570 miurasv, Jun 21, 2011
    Does one of the original Miura prototypes still exist with the rear glass window and is it still in that form?
     
  21. spadge1976

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    #8571 spadge1976, Jun 21, 2011
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    The first prototype, chassis number 0509, was destroyed. Not sure if that was the car with the clear rear window - I think it was though
     
  22. miurasv

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    #8572 miurasv, Jun 21, 2011
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    http://www.lamborghinimiura.com/PAGE1/0509.HTM

    Thanks for that. I googled Miura 0509 and found the link above. I never noticed the 4 exhausts on that car before. I see they later fitted the car with louvres.
     
  23. joe sackey

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    #8574 joe sackey, Jun 21, 2011
    Just one car with the Plexiglas rear hood cover, 0502. Although it was discarded in favor of the famed "Venetian Blinds" we know on all Miuras..
     
  25. Miura Jota

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