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  1. joe sackey

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    #77 Miura Jota, Dec 10, 2006
    it works for me !
    waht can I say ...
    that JOTA sounds so mennacing I love it!
    and your pics are cool also
    anymore pics with that girl ?

    P.S. Have you guys seen this period video?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcxTljRHOQg&mode=related&search=

    notice a period Mustang too.
     
  3. joe sackey

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    #78 joe sackey, Dec 10, 2006
    OK, now the video links work. Thanks for fixing that Vector-France.

    Joe
     
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    #80 Vector-France, Dec 11, 2006
    Miura Jota, for your youtube link, in first, it's Peille, litle village between Nice and Monaco and after, it's Nice.

    L'Homme orchestre of Serge Korber (1970) with Louis de Funes.
    I think that you can find it in english, spanish and others langage.

    and for girl, no !! ;)
     
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    #82 joe sackey, Dec 11, 2006
    Nice Video, thanks for posting.

    Joe
     
  8. Miura Jota

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    #83 Miura Jota, Dec 11, 2006
    I wish Lamborghini would create a MIURA replacement
    I mean ... a car with a more organic design which echoes the Miura Sensuality

    instead of following the radical futuristic edge sharp design starded by Countach and followed until today ...

    Q. why Gandini wasn't involved in Diablo's replacement?

    Q is it only me or the Porsche 928 headlights layout is a Miura Rip off ?
    also the mid 70's Ford Maverick's tail always seemed Miura-ish tome

    just notice those Maverick't taillights
    come to think of it , I'm starting to like this Maverick angle
    http://images.google.com.mx/imgres?imgurl=http://www.dragtimes.com/images/6930-1970-Ford-Maverick.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Maverick-Timeslip-6930.html&h=375&w=500&sz=77&hl=es&start=73&tbnid=D12d9Fopllpd2M:&tbnh=98&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmaverick%2B%26start%3D60%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Des%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN
    http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Maverick-Timeslip-6930.html
     
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    #84 joe sackey, Dec 11, 2006
    Ah that is Yves' SV in Monte Carlo, very nice.
    Joe
     
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    #86 Pantera, Dec 12, 2006
    I don't about you guys, but when someone mentions Miura I think Muscle Car for somereason.
     
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    #87 joe sackey, Dec 12, 2006
    Well, its a car, and its got muscle... :)

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    #91 amenasce, Dec 13, 2006
    I want the IOTA !!!
     
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    #92 joe sackey, Dec 14, 2006
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    If the original one-and-only Bob Wallace-built Jota were still around with us I think it would be worth several million dollars, given that we just sold a standard Miura SV for $800,000 last week. So youd have an expensive Christmas present indeed.
    Personally, I would have loved to see it remain a truly exclusive one-off, rather than see its memory live on through replicas, copies & copies of replicas such as has happened over the years.

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  18. EMILIO

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    #93 EMILIO, Dec 14, 2006
    Jota is dead

    long lives to SVJ - SVR - SV dry sump....
    at least its life ended in the country it was born ...
    and in the best way to die for a lambo (a flat out run on hiwaaaaay with a sexy lady in the passenger seat ;) )
     
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    #94 joe sackey, Dec 14, 2006
    Emilio,
    Actually what happened is that a man called Enrico Pasolini (a Lamborghini dealer of repute who fancied himself as a racing car driver) was 'joyriding' in the car with another man the day before they were supposed to deliver the car to Alfredo Belponer (Scuderia Brescia Corse). They simply lost control at a teriffic rate of speed and the car was destroyed - crashed, then burned to the ground.
    The SVJs are all standard SVs modified with some cosmetic Jota features.
    The SVR is closest to the original Jota albeit modified from a P400.
    The dry-sumped SVs are simply SVs with a dry sump oiling kit on them.
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    #95 EMILIO, Dec 14, 2006
    i like more the romantic version i have heard many times

    for all the Jota ispired cars, they are not Jota but i think you could agree any special miura by the factory is still a desirable collectible car, ...even the SVR
     
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    #96 joe sackey, Dec 14, 2006
    Actually I like the SVR because it is not a pseudo Jota such as the SVJs are - The SVR actually has a fully dry sumped engine which is a special tuned unit. As for its looks....

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    #97 amenasce, Dec 14, 2006

    Joe,

    Thanks for the great info you provide on the Miura. Its one of my favortie cars (after a long list of Ferrari :) ). Usually i dont like replicas but IOTA is soo beautiful and sounds so good that im glad it exists and cant wait to see it in person some day. Is it a UK car ?
    How many Miuras were *upgraded* to SVJ specs ? And are they worth more than an untouched SV ?

    Grazie !
     
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    With its box-frame monocoque chassis, the Miura's intended purpose was to be high-speed king of the ROAD.

    Whenever the Miura was pressed into competition, the results were dismal, to say the least. Porsche F1 driver and European hillclimb Champion Gerhard Mitter drove this example number 3312, the first P400 with thicker-gauge chassis (upgraded from 0.9mm to 1.0mm), for Tobias Steinwinter in 1968. Its efforts only served to convince Dallara that the Miura would never be a racing car, and in September of that year he left Lamborghini.

    Not many know that the Jota was indeed tested at Monza (this as verified to me by a factory Miura chassis engineer) and the results were so poor that shortly after it was sold to an Italian Lamborghini concessionaire....

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    #100 joe sackey, Dec 14, 2006
    The UK-based Jota you speak of is a REPLICA, a good one, but not an exact one.

    About 10 SVs were MODIFIED with Jota features. Some people like them and will pay a premium for them over an SV.
    However, I cannot tell you how many times a collector has said to me: "I want a nice Miura SV, and for heaven's sake, please not one MODIFIED with all those Jota features". Those individuals value an un-modified SV more and value the Jota-modified SVs less. Its a matter of taste. Either way, in my opinion, since the Miura always was and is a ROAD car, the Jota-type features make the car a bit of a pseudo-comp car with an identity crises IMHO.

    Joe
     
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