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  1. espada1952

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    #10351 espada1952, Jun 24, 2012
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    Some Period Pictures of various UK SV
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  2. miurasv

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    Thanks, Stephen. I had that Fast Car Car magazine when I was in school. The brightwork must have been done early on the black car as that's dated 1974. I was actually looking for that pic of the white SV on here earlier. You said where the black car 4828 is. Do you know where the others are now?
     
  3. spadge1976

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    Registration painted on the front hood - yet more vandalism.
    Shocking how many horrible things I've seen done to Miuras in this thread (pinstripes being the worst).
     
  4. joe sackey

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    No, Miles car was LHD.
     
  5. espada1952

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    Miles Davis car was definitely LHD the car in the pictures is a libary pic of a RHD SV taken in 1972 when or before it was delivered,I think it is 4814 [ Light Blue with Blue Leather] following information from Steve,the original registration is unknown of this car so there is good chance it was 913 LN,it was meant to be originaly owned by Tony Iomi of Black Sabath fame but I owned it for 5 years and never got any proof and there are no pictures of him and the car that I could find.

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  6. miurasv

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    Yes, I think the car with reg. 913 LN could well be 4814. It can't be the white one that originally had blue interior and gold wheels and sills (RYY 161K 4830?) as I've said above that had the Britax Seat Harnesses. The white car also had air conditioning but the 3 vents on top of the dash that a car with a/c has are not present on the car in the pic.

    4814 - http://www.themiuraregister.com/miura/register.php?id=699
     
  7. SAB

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    Hi, Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath is said to have owned the Pale Blue Miura SV but as you say, there are no known photos of him and any Lamborghinis. He possibly owned more than one. I used to collect every article I could find on the band starting in about 1969, and there was only reference to him owning Lamborghinis, but sadly no photograhic evidence of him with his cars. I met Iommi several times back in the 70s and 80s but unfortunately, never thought to ask him about his cars!

    I saw the car at Gaydon a few years ago and it looks stunningly beautiful. The colour really works well on the car.

    SAB (another Stephen)
     
  8. miurasv

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    I have been corresponding with the highly regarded Rare, Sports and Luxury Car Dealer, Mr William Loughran, and he informed me today that he bought the first Miura SV in the UK, white, gold wheels and sills with blue interior, direct from Roger Philips, the UK Lamborghini importer who he knew very well, at the Earls Court Motor Show where the car was on display.

    He said he used the car for a year and he then sold it to Lord Lilford who also kept it for about a year when he sold it to a London car dealer who sold it to Elton John.

    Does anyone have any pics of the car on display at Earls Court?

    4830 - http://www.themiuraregister.com/miura/register.php?id=681
     
  9. SAB

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    Steve, have you noticed that the Miura Registry seems to have 4822 and 4830 with similar information? How many RHD SVs were in the UK?
     
  10. miurasv

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    Yes, I saw that SAB. I'm not 100% on it but I think the white car is most likely 4830.

    There were 9 RHD cars originally made by the factory and 2 LHD cars that were converted by the factory to RHD soon after being made for export to Australia. The car Jay Kay had is not an oriiginal RHD car. It was converted by Graypaul in the early 80s.The following is what I wrote in post 9229 of this thread about RHD cars.

    "Factory Original RHD P400SV = 4830, 4812, 4814, 4816, 4818, 4828, 4820, 4822 and 4826.

    For years it was published in the press that there were '7 RHD SVs', '7 UK RHD SVs', '7 RHD SVs in the UK' and sometimes worded as '7 RHD SVs made' which was incorrect. 7 is still the figure people use as advertised incorrectly for the Classic Driver ad for 5036 which isn't even one of the 7??? if you get my meaning. Clearly there were 9 original factory RHD SVs, c/n numbers above, but could the 7 figure have come about because 4826 went to South Africa as of all the pics I've seen of it it never had a UK plate with very little info on it and we know that 4822 did go to South Africa? If you count 5002 and 5036 (converted from LHD to RHD by the factory early on as stated previously by JS) then there were 11 factory RHD cars which are now 10 because 4820 is now LHD."
     
  11. espada1952

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    Having owned two SV and being an age when I can remember them new there were only seven registered in the UK,the other RHD went to South Africa and other RHD countries,out of the seven one was converted by DK Engineering to LHD,a German car was converted to RHD by Graypaul,which still leaves seven,in recent years the converted car has gone to Ireland and one of the originals is in HongKong,there are still five RHD cars in the UK with various collectors plus the odd LHD car that passes through,there is also an Australian RHD car at JD Classics at the moment.

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    Strange, but the picture note/text says its Dr. Kaivan Salehs car.

    "Outside their home, he and his wife showing off their sports car, an Italian-made Lamborghini."
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    I asked Del if he knew of this mystery car, and he didn't recognise the number plate at all.
    Also, the DVLA registration website doesn't recognise it, whereas it does recognise some of the other RHD SVs.

    Have a close look at the picture. That plate "913 LN" is not centred at the front of the car, which is a little odd.

    Air conditioning might be a giveaway, but you can't tell from the picture whether it is present. I don't think we know if 4814 had the roof aerial from birth either.
     
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    I think that plate "913 LN" is a UK 'trade' plate.

    Mark Shannon
     
  17. miurasv

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    Here's a link to 4820. When they restored it or converted it from RHD to LHD and replaced the dash they must have left the air conditioning off along with the vents on top of the dash as the car must have had a/c originally as it has a single distributor.

    http://www.rmauctions.com/CarDetails.cfm?SaleCode=MO08&CarID=r103
     
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    Maybe 69/70

    I think Mark is right they are trade plates, we just need to work out which car it is

    Any one any idea on the attached pic that was taken in London in the late 60s

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  19. SAB

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    If that's a G plate on the Miura, it was first registered between 1 August 1968 – 31 July 1969 in Exeter, so presumably the photo would be any time after 1 August 1968.
     
  20. xs10shl

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    That's a pretty big Honda booth in the background, with what appears to be an N600. Honda started manufacturing cars around the same time as Lamborghini, and I think this model appeared in 1969. Interesting to see a Mazda booth as well.
     
  21. miurasv

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    Some information about plates in the link below. Scroll about a third of the way down. LN on that plate could mean the area code London North West Greater London until 1974. Where exactly were Lamborghini Concessionaires/Roger Philips based in 1972?

    http://www.cvpg.co.uk/REG.pdf
     
  22. joe sackey

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    Yes I already pointed this out and explained earlier - Saleh says the magazine got it wrong, as often happens.
     
  23. Peter.Lazzari

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    Sorry Stephen, but I believe the 'recent' LHD -> RHD conversion you mention in Ireland is an 'S', # 4593. I have known the car since June 1970

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  24. espada1952

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    The S [that you know] has recently been converted from Lh to Rh by Colin Clarke is in Ireland,but an another Irishman has brought the ex Hew Dundas/JK SV
    There is also another S in Colin Clarke's workshop at the moment that has come from Ireland

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  25. Peter.Lazzari

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    Sorry Stephen.

    I have a certain affection for 4593 as its owner gave me a spin around Dublin city in it 1n 1971. Its as-new now in its post-CC conversion etc guise.

    I am also surprised to learn that there are 2 other Miuras in the Emerald Isle !

    Thanks

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