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  1. vfinaldi

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    Beautiful Miura indeed…concours restoration completed 100% in house at Cairati. Dallara knows how great and fast P400’s are as well :D
     
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    Indeed they are quick.

    Speaking separately of speed, this mishap occurred at 270 kph, the driver survived to tell the tale, I dare say it was a "Dear God" moment.

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  3. vfinaldi

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    Never lift…
     
  4. joe sackey

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    Except when a Fiat 128 randomly moves over when when you are doing 270 kmh, which is what happened there, you can see guard rail along the car's side.
     
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    Chassis number?
     
  6. vfinaldi

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    Ouch! I would call that a bad day…
     
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  7. joe sackey

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    I wish I could say.
     
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    I suggest to scan the Production list for replacement chassis/cars...
     
  9. joe sackey

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    The Miura is a P400S, the front & rear hoods were replaced, not the chassis, the rest was repaired, what I mean when I say I wish I could say is, I am not at liberty to disclose the number.
     
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    My guess/speculation is:

    Miuras were always very, very expensive cars – and upgrades to a P400 S’s chrome-appearance were only made at Sant'Agata Bolognese?

    • replacement of the windshield frame
    • the tread of the side windows
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  12. joe sackey

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    What is it you are trying to find out?

    As is well-established, chrome trim (windows, headlight bezels) was a feature of the P400S and SV.
     
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    I ment upgrades concerning chrome-exterior (windows or headlight bezels), in order to let a P400 look like the newer P400 S - just "chrome-kits"
     
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    I've never heard of a "chrome kit" in almost 40 years of Miura enthusiasm, of course one could simply buy P400S window trim from the factory and apply it to a P400, or, remove the P400 window trim and have it chromed.
     
  15. vfinaldi

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    The Shah’s P400 had chrome bumpers etc. That’s the only one I know of.
     
  16. vfinaldi

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    1968 Lamborghini Miura P400 engine dyno testing a couple weeks ago by Cairati Carrozzeria in Milan, Italy. These sustained dyno pulls were over 6000 RPMs. The engine performed flawlessly. Afterwards, the oil pan and cam covers were pulled for inspection before verifying specs and marriage into chassis. The car will be done soon.
     
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    cant tell from video. open or muffled exhaust? air cleaner installed?
     
  18. alexpada

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    I've always wondered how and when they got their chrome trim.

    It is probably difficult to say when these improvements were made – back in the early 70ies or later...(?)

    Thank you for your assessment!
     
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    Again, it's well-established that when P400 production ended and P400S production began, Bertone SpA began dispatching the completed Miura bodies from it's Grugliasco plant to Lamborghini's Santa Agata factory with chrome trim in place, it's really that simple.

    Of course, a couple of cars had custom appointments, for example the Shah's P400 which had chrome window trim and bumpers, and later, Innocenti's SV had chromed bumpers, Lamborghini Miura production always had custom exception for it's VIP clients.

    There was no "chrome kit" officially marketed and offered by Lamborghini SpA per se, but of course you could purchase chrome parts from the factory during the production period.
     
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    I‘m interested to know if you just could go to, let’s say Hubert Hahne, having an oil change –

    and simply order some chrome improvements
     
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    Sure, he'd call the factory and ask if they have a set of P400S window trim & headlight bezels.

    Meanwhile I'm wondering why this is such a mystery or fascination to you?
     
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    it's interesting for me because chrome is the easiest distinguishing feature to sepeate a P400 from a P400S

    And I always wondered why production numbers for P400 and P400S were unclear quite a long time
     
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    Actually, the chassis numbers define the change from P400 to P400S, there are several good books which detail this, and this has been documented clearly in this thread, production numbers were unclear because the factory's records initially weren't readily available and there was initially some confusion in the production totals, however in recent times this has been defined and disclosed, the production upgrades from P400 to P400S involved more than just chrome trim (in case that's why you are so fascinated by this), if you do the research, this topic will become clear.
     
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    On a lighter note, I personally found the Miura to be a fairly practical car, you could stow quite a bit of luggage in the trunk, lots of groceries, perhaps even a set of golf clubs.

    Or as Helmut Newton demonstrated in the late 60s - a lady!

    Enjoy the weekend.

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