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  1. JCR

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    #20402 johnhoughtaling, Dec 25, 2023
    Having owned 4870 for nearly a decade, and poured over as much research as I could dig up while restoring it to its present configuration, I must say documenting 4870 has always been difficult. Some records have the car in a much lighter blue ishia, others have it as blue notte it is now and as I re restored it. Period photos rarely get the color right but as you look at old photos in Iran both color and black and white, it always appeared lighter than the current blue Note which looks very dark unless you are in direct sunlight.

    There was always a rumor that at some point the front lights stoped working and whoever had it at the time put crude jaguar lights on it. These photos, if they are 4870 (look like it) suggest a jota front style light. Sadly I was never able to confirm what the car exactly looked like while with the shah. Never saw a photo of the shah with the car. For all we know it could have bern in this configuration with the shah or in the beginning. It always irked me a bit that I could never quite be sure.

    That said I had many colorful adventures with the car both in the livey Joe Sackey restored the car (blue/blue with a filer cap) and the way I restored it Notte/White, which is how it appears now. (aside from black emblems)


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  5. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #20405 Olivier NAMECHE, Feb 14, 2024
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    Organizing & managing the return of Miura #3586 "The Italian Job" back to the Alps for the first time ever since the original 1968 movie record was a thrilling experience that I will never forget... what a blast !

    Thanks to my friend and partner Iain Tyrrell, to who I sold it to, has accepted my idea to revisit the making off with a professionnal team to record our modern sequence well prepared in advance, we accomplished what was never imagined before.

    2 years later in 2018, I sold it again, to current owner who also used #3586 for his own promotion and won several awards with it.


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    #20406 Olivier NAMECHE, Feb 14, 2024

    Hi Vince,

    When can we pay you a visit ?
     
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    #20408 MiuraP400, Feb 16, 2024
    Lol, missed that

    cheers Jim
     
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  10. miurasv

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    #20410 miurasv, Jun 2, 2024
    There does not seem to be much activity on FChat any more. Sign of the times I guess with most using IG and FB now. Anyway, if anyone is looking Miura SV 4972 sold for a record 4.9 million US dollars yesterday by RM Sotheby's. See here.
     
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    #20411 Bertocchi, Jun 2, 2024
    Incredible price but the cars have reached a stage where they are considered a must in any collection.
     
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    #20412 miurasv, Jun 2, 2024
    I appreciate that your expertise is more on the technical/restoration side rather than the market, but are you referring to Miura P400SVs in particular or Miuras in general? The price gap between P400SVs and P400/P400S seems to be widening.
     
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    #20413 Longstone Tyres, Jun 3, 2024
    Hi

    This thread just popped up in my email. I thought it might not be a bad idea to let you know we have the CN12 in stock.

    https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/classic-car-tyres/lamborghini/miura.html

    205VR15 Cinturato CN72 for the very first Miura

    215/70VR15 XWX
    225/70VR15 XWX

    215/70VR15 Cinturato CN12
    255/60VR15 Cinturato CN12
    for the SV.

    we do have a few of these CN12 left, but not many. you can imagine that rear tyre is tricky to justify it is a very small volume tyre so we only order small batches to keep them fresh.
     
  14. GIOTTO

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    #20415 mrp_e, Jul 2, 2024
    Olivier, I've read more than a few owners replaced their original P400 engine with an S engine back in the day. On average, what would you say is the impact to value from a non-matching engine in a Miura? Thanks much
     
  16. joe sackey

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    #20416 joe sackey, Jul 4, 2024
    Getting closer, end of this year.

    I remember this car when Hew Dundas owned it the 80s, the steering wheel was on the other side! (RHD)

    If a client came to me with $5m to spend on an SV, I can think of many other SVs with a purer provenance that I would have proposed.

    I think Miuras in general have always been a must for a collection although with prices where they are now, not every collection can afford one.

    The price gap has always been an SV is 2x a P400, IIRC in the USA a new SV was about double a P400 4 or 5 years after P400s debuted, and this formula has continued over the year more or less the same, restored P400 are bringing well over $2m and I think that'll increase this summer at Pebble Beach.

    Pretty cool, though I wish people would stop ascribing the expression 'barn find' to cars that were abandoned by the owner in a garage, workshop, living room or whatever, if you're describing a car as a barn find, show us convincing pictures of said car sitting there rotting away in a barn. And I don't know why people get so excited by a true barn find anyway, imagine a beautiful machine left to die outside in the elements, I'm not sure what's good about that as in many cases most of the original components can't be saved.

    Two Lamborghini employees who worked at Sant Agata whilst Miura production was ongoing have separately told me that the factory actually offered this upgrade on an informal basis, in fact I have seen a letter from the Sales Director soliciting this enhancement from a P400 owner. As time goes on and the cars become more valuable, I can see some passing on a car with non-matching numbers just so they don't have to explain it later or have difficulty selling, so I do believe it affects the value somewhat.
     
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    #20417 mrp_e, Jul 5, 2024
    Thanks, Joe.
    I have serious Miura fever at the moment.
     
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    #20420 BGP-21, Jul 5, 2024
    My mistake. Was confused with another I'd photographed.
     
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    Do you know the chassis number or have more pics?
     
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    #20422 BGP-21, Jul 5, 2024
    I have more images but wouldn't share any details without the owners permission
     
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    #20423 mrp_e, Aug 17, 2024
    One point nine USD (hammer) for the brown "lost" P400 S, wow.
     
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    #20425 BartonWorkman, Aug 23, 2024
    Curated is proud to announce the return of the Eddie Van Halen 1971 Lamborghini Miura S (Chassis #4701)
    is back in our Miami showroom directly from Italy where it received a comprehensive Polo Storico
    restoration.. The decision was made to keep the car red rather than back to its original Iconic Verde.

    Images were made this week after the Curated team rolled the car into place. The car may now be seen
    on display in the Curated showroom.

    BHW


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