MLB 2021

Over the last few years I have advocated for the use of robo-umpires in all games. Let the ump perform his/her signature motion and make some noise. The ump will only repeat the call by the machine. It's not fair for any team to endure the constant nonsense from incompetent umpires. My guess the Ray's last night did not receive the correct call by the umpires, at Fenway. The announcers claimed it was at the discretion of the umpires to determine if the Ray's runner on second base could have scored. No way the relay throw gets the runner at the plate. Yes, the call came from N.Y. after replay. What a rip-off from the Ray's POV.





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Check out the location of a crucial pitch from last nights White Sox-Astros' game. At the time the Astros were ahead 5-1.

Yasmani Grandal was given four strikes in the batter's box and the umpire called this pitch a ball. This should have been a called strike three. No part of the ball was outside of the strike zone. Two (2x) called third-strikes to Jose Altuve resulted with balls 100% outside of the strike zone. Grandal after fouling the next pitch hit the ball out of the park, for a two-run H.R.

No the Astros catcher did not bobble his glove. In fact the Astros catcher (Maldonado) has won several Gold Gloves, for his stellar defense.

 

The announcers were wrong though, a ground rule double doesn’t provide for umpire discretion. The same thing actually happened in Tampa’s favor a couple of years ago and they didn’t object.

https://www.mlb.com/video/galvis-doubles-in-run-on-review

I do agree with you though that the umps need to use robo calling in the pitches. Years over due.

 

Exactly right. When Kiermaier hit the ground rule double Diaz was on first so his advancement was limited to third by rule. The announcers were arguing it should have been umpire discretion, that if they figured Diaz would have made it home had the ball not left play he should have been allowed to advance. They were overlooking the fact that the rule allows only two base advancement and not umpire discretion.

 

The Dodgers lost 2 games -- both shut outs. They've just been outpitched.

 

10-1 Houston.

Bottom of the 9th.

 

So you just knew the Dodger/ Giants series would go down to one game. Two teams with amazing seasons. Whoever wins this you would think has the edge to the WS.

 

Giants Dodgers game 5 parking fees:
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Only swinging strike was pitch 6. Why aren’t we utilizing electronic calling again?

 

That seems cheap for the area.

When I went to the 2005 WS Game 3 I think I paid $50, it may very well have been $100. And that was back then and Houston to top it off.

 

K. I've actually never drove to AT&T, always taken Bart & Muni when we go.

 

Flores DID NOT swing.

Ref blew the call.

 

YAH BABY!!!!!!


Dodgers beat the Giants!
Dodgers beat the Giants!
Dodgers beat the Giants!

 

I agree. But the Giants got first place from a similar bad call. In the end it all evens out.

 

Understood.

Not rooting for the Giants.

The issue of blown calls is not fair for all thirty teams who have to endure serious mistakes.

The mistakes by umps have proven to potentially cost teams the entire season.

Flores may hit the ball to RF and Bryant advances to second. One more single and the game is tied.

Look at post # 101. The ump refused to call Grandal out and two pitches later he hits a two-run home run. The entire game shifted on the HR.

Incompetence by the umpires have gone on for too long.

 

Anything that makes Giants fans upset for the next year is OK with me.

Like -- this picture!

 

Wonder how much Eddings had riding on the Dodgers…

 

A motivational picture for the 2022 Giants.

 

Pete Rose viciously rips Yankees' Joey Gallo: 'Ray Charles wouldn't strike out that much' (msn.com)

I do not follow the Yankees. The internet is filled with articles.




After a 90-win season that included a 17-game winning streak and a postseason trip, Mike Shildt is out as the St. Louis Cardinals manager.

WoW

 

yep unreal. Astros just got screwed on 3-1 call that way outside. Bregman was heading towards first base.

 

regarding “that” dodgers/giants check swing call, could the home base umpire overruled the bad call?

 

Nope. That's why he asked the 1st base umpire. The home plate umpire calls that swing unless he is asked for a second opinion. The catcher has to request it but the Umpire can deny the request (they rarely do deny the request). Once he gives the request, he cannot overrule it. The first base ump has the final say but ONLY after the Home Plate ump asks for it.

In effect the 1st base ump is overruling the Home plate ump because the Home plate ump did not make the call of a swing on that pitch. He was going to call it "a ball". Home Plate umps call half swings all the time without the 1st base umpire being involved. Its when the catcher thinks the Home Plate ump may have not seen it correctly that they call for the 1st or 3rd ump to give the call

The same goes for the 3rd base umpire if there's a left handed batter.

The home plate up is in charge but can delegate this call to the 1st or 3rd base ump.

So you have a guy 90 feet away looking at a split second move of the batter's bat and making an immediate call. You can see how this might be in error at times but its the same for everyone.

The Giants did not lose the game from that call. They lost it when they allowed Bellinger to get a clutch hit and bring in a guy who was hit by the pitch to get on in the first place in the 9th inning.

That's what sank the Giants.

 

The game is not over until it is over. Y.B.


We all have seen plenty of rallies begin with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th and the entire ceiling caves in.

It is just two singles - or a walk and a single and the game is tied.

You can be down 0-2 and walk. HBP ? Wild pitch and the runner advances to second. Fielding errors.


We will never know due to the blown call by the incompetent 1st base umpire.

I am not taking anything away from the Dodgers.

The Umps are all horrible and the game should not continue as-is.

 

Yes, and for the 2021 Giants, the 2020 Giants, the 2019 Giants, the...Hey two things about the last call. Rules of thumb for umpires are whether or not the bat enters the air space above home plate. If it does, it's a strike no matter if the wrists break or not (wrist break is a strike even if the bat doesn't go over the plate). For the first base ump, the visual cue is if they can see the head of the bat during the swing. The view from the first base line camera indicates he could (or thought he could) see the head of the bat. Close call either way, if it had been ruled not to be a swing, I'd be OK with that too. I'd agree that home plate should be automated for balls and strikes, tougher to et a robot to manage check swings.

In a larger sense, this evens the scales for 70 years ago with Thompson's home run. As we now finally know, he knew what pitch was coming, making it a lot easier for him to swing from the heels. Sure, cheating and bad calls are part of the game, but the Dodgers have been jobbed several times, so the only fitting ending to this season will be beating the Astros in the World Series to even the score from 2017 from them...then again. Cora and the Red Sox would be OK to beat also hahahahaa.