News

Modeler Help: A Few Questions

Discussion in 'Collectables, Literature, & Models' started by karmavore, Feb 3, 2004.

  1. karmavore

    karmavore Formula 3

    Dec 29, 2002
    1,641
    Maryland
    Full Name:
    Luke Colorado
    I have two 1:18 Mira 348s that I broke down last night for painting. The paint jobs are just awful. Since I haven't painted a model since JR. High I have some questions:

    How can I save the tiny stickers on the body? ("pininfarina", "348", etc..)

    Is there an adhesive that I can use to glue medal to medal (one of my door hinges broke and I need to weld it in place)?

    Is there an adhesive that I can use to glue plastic to medal?

    Ok, painting...

    My plan to paint was this...

    1) sand with rotary tool, sand paper
    2) spray with primer (spray can)
    3) spray with paint (spray can)
    4) spray with clear (fspray can)

    Is that correct?

    Will I get a nice smooth shinny paint?

    what brands of paint to you all recommend?

    Thanks fellas!!!

    Luke.
     
  2. jj2728

    jj2728 Karting

    Jan 19, 2004
    194
    Ontario
    for metal to metal...either super glue or a 5 minute epoxy glue.....the same method can be used for plastic to metal....
     
  3. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Oct 3, 2002
    45,831
    @ the wheel
    Full Name:
    Andreas
    "Chrome" parts like the horse etc are removable. You might have to break the sockets, but can always glue them on later.

    Stickers are lost. You could take pics of them and recreate them via the PC. There is a decal cover adhesive that you could put on before painting, but it gets messy with small parts.

    Superglue works on all surfaces, but creates white spots on plastic, so you need to repaint after glueing.

    I never sand down an existing model. There is the risk to roughen up the surface too much. I rather give it a few coats of rattle can paint.

    I'm using real Ferrari Rosso Corsa paint, but any rattle can paint normally works just fine.
     
  4. Schatten

    Schatten F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed Owner

    Apr 3, 2001
    11,237
    Austin, TX
    Full Name:
    Randy
    interesting. before I dive into a larger project, I'm just starting with an extra Maisto S2000 that I have laying around. (oddly enough I have three silvers - why, no idea - gifts)
     
  5. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Oct 3, 2002
    45,831
    @ the wheel
    Full Name:
    Andreas
    Good approach. Each model I build I learn something. Some times I screw up, sometimes not. But the overall experience and results are getting better.
     
  6. Gimme Fuel

    Gimme Fuel F1 Veteran

    Mar 15, 2003
    9,428
    In my 348
    Full Name:
    Paul (Norway)
    You got mail

    Paul
     
  7. prohydro

    prohydro Formula Junior

    Nov 1, 2001
    797
    Redmond, WA
    Full Name:
    Christian
    There's a product called JB Weld that you can get at any autoparts store. It's a metal epoxy. Might be overkill for the project, but the stuff rocks. You can file it/sand it just like metal if you need too, and it is strong. Regular epoxy might weaken on a door hinge. This stuff will not.
     
  8. karmavore

    karmavore Formula 3

    Dec 29, 2002
    1,641
    Maryland
    Full Name:
    Luke Colorado
    But there are rough spots already? The seams especially.

    So what would you do, step by step?
     
  9. TSMIV

    TSMIV Formula Junior

    Jan 27, 2004
    373
    Columbus, MS
    Full Name:
    Robert Goodman
    As far as getting the old paint off, my brothers used to use a Pine Sol/water mixture to get the paint off of pewter figures. It did a good job and would get into the crevices of the intricate pieces. I am unsure of mixture though. Another option you might try is model paint thinner?
     
  10. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Oct 3, 2002
    45,831
    @ the wheel
    Full Name:
    Andreas
    1) Take pictures of decals that need to be replaced.
    2) Take off all chromed parts
    3) Disassemble the model as far as possible.
    4) Sand any rough spots smoothly
    5) Tape off any section you don't want to paint.
    6) Spray paint lightly.
    7) Let dry for 24 hours
    8) Back to step 6 about 3 times
    9) Glued/screw everything back together
    10) Using a fine brush and paint from the rattle can, fix any problem spots
     
  11. karmavore

    karmavore Formula 3

    Dec 29, 2002
    1,641
    Maryland
    Full Name:
    Luke Colorado
    Rock on, thank you man.
     
  12. Scott85

    Scott85 Formula 3

    Dec 16, 2000
    1,240
    Dayton , OH
    Decals - http://www.pattosplace.com/decalsf-o.html He has a bunch of Ferrari decals and he does them in 1/18 (even though they aren't listed). It cost me $12 delivered for a sheet and took 2 weeks to make it to Ohio , from Australia.

    As for painting, I usually use 2 coats of primer, 2-3 of color & 2-3 of clear coat. I let the paint harden for about 2-3 days -
    then sand with 1500 grit(just a little, for a nice ,smooth finish)
    then buff with a clear coat compound(fine to medium cut, to get rid of the sanding scratches)
    then buff with a finishing wax (silicone free)
     
  13. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Oct 3, 2002
    45,831
    @ the wheel
    Full Name:
    Andreas
    Thanks for that decal link. Very helpful!
     
  14. carl63_99

    carl63_99 Karting

    Oct 22, 2001
    199
    To strip the paint, you can use oven cleaner or Castrol Super clean, either will strip the model bare. I recomment Automotive sanding primer, and 3M scratch filler for any small flaws you may find. At this point, you sand and fill until the body is smooth. Then do your paint and clearcoat, followed with some 3M fine cut polishing compound and carnuba wax.

    You don't say where the hinge broke, but I would, if at all possible, drill a hole through the hinge where the break is and push a peice of steel rod through it for improved strength, then cover it with some JB weld.

    Check out the diecast and car modeling forums here

    http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=926

    Alex has some good tutorials on finishing and painting.

    http://italianhorses.net/
     

Share This Page