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Moderator Abuse of Power and Priveledge

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Should Vik (aka Ghost) be removed as a Moderator?

  1. Yes, I too have noticed disturbing trends

  2. No, I feel he is doing an appropriate job in an unbiased manner

  3. I am undecided or don't wish to answer for fear or other reasons

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  1. bobafett

    bobafett F1 Veteran

    Sep 28, 2002
    9,193
    As a quiet observer for quite some time, I have noticed that there has been a lot of moderator abuse and uncalled for action against a group of individuals he has deemed as trouble-makers, often w/o cause or due process.

    From what I have seen, what I have heard, and what I know, I feel that Vik, aka Ghost, as acted in manners undue and should be stripped of his Moderator status.

    I do not say this out of any particular bias, after all my own conversations with him are virtually non-existant. This is based on my own silent observation.

    While he is entitled to his own opinions, so are the rest of the members of this community (Rosso subscribed and not). The difference is that when some opinions are out of line with Ghost's, pepole are often mistreated and not given due accord, let alone an apology.

    His own bias has been more than evident, and I find it distressing that he, given his clear anti-ferrari sentiments, is moderating in a Ferrari forum. Perhaps his responsibilities should be shifted to Lambochat.

    I, for one, call for his removal as a moderator at least from these sections. I am curious as to how many others feel that way.

    --Dan
     
  2. sjmst

    sjmst F1 Veteran
    Lifetime Rossa

    Jul 31, 2003
    9,854
    Long Island, NY
    Full Name:
    Sam
    If anyone has comments, please be civil and be factual. There should be no name calling and general "yeah so and so is no good." I am not even sure if this poll is the way to proceed. PM's may be more in order, but I will stand aside for the moment.
     
  3. JStone414

    JStone414 Formula 3

    Sep 23, 2004
    1,163
    Gotham
    Full Name:
    Roman Sionis
  4. Hubert888

    Hubert888 F1 Veteran
    BANNED

    May 14, 2003
    5,441
    Manhattan & LA
    Full Name:
    Hubert
  5. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
    Honorary Owner

    Oct 23, 2002
    32,118
    Full Name:
    Jim Glickenhaus
    Agree totally and stated that I felt the time had come for him to go long ago.
     
  6. F5506M

    F5506M Formula Junior

    Nov 3, 2003
    922
    New Jersey
    Full Name:
    Ray
    In agreement with the removal.
     
  7. BklynBenz

    BklynBenz Rookie
    BANNED

    May 3, 2005
    19
    Yes, I too have noticed disturbing trends
     
  8. TC (Houston)

    TC (Houston) Formula Junior

    Feb 5, 2002
    781
    Houston
    Totally agree with Dan. And this will be my last post in this section so long as he is a mod here.
     
  9. Ed P.

    Ed P. Formula 3

    Dec 28, 2002
    2,177
    Long Island
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    No Longer
    As a relatively long time member of this forum I've seen quite an evolution here. I must say it's not the place it used to be. I also agree that Vik has taken his duties as a moderator way too far. It's time to step down.
     
  10. BWS550

    BWS550 Wants to be a mod

    Apr 1, 2002
    8,933
    NEW JERSEY
    Full Name:
    BRUCE WELLINGTON
    HEY GUYS, IF YOU GET RID OF VIC, IM NEXT IN LINE FOR THE TITLE, AND IM SURE YOU DONT WANT ME....

    BRUCE
     
  11. F5506M

    F5506M Formula Junior

    Nov 3, 2003
    922
    New Jersey
    Full Name:
    Ray

    I would take you over Vik,

    how have you been?
     
  12. F5506M

    F5506M Formula Junior

    Nov 3, 2003
    922
    New Jersey
    Full Name:
    Ray
    Just for the record and in the hopes of "full disclosure" i would like to remind people who participate in this forum not to forget about the banned and self-banned ex-members of ferrari chat, because they won't be able to vote but its obvious from how they were treated and how they felt which way they would vote in this poll.
     
  13. BWS550

    BWS550 Wants to be a mod

    Apr 1, 2002
    8,933
    NEW JERSEY
    Full Name:
    BRUCE WELLINGTON
    HE RE.....

    VERY BUSY AT WORK AND FAMILY

    VERY LITTLE TIME ....REGARDS TO DAD!!

    STAY WELL

    BRUCE
     
  14. Jeff E39

    Jeff E39 Formula Junior

    Aug 7, 2005
    336
    NJ
    Full Name:
    Jeff
    From what I have seen of Viks posting in the regionals; he seems like a really nice guy. Down to earth and a true enthusiast. I took your link of his postings into consideration; however I voted undecided and probably closer to NO.
     
  15. KennyH

    KennyH F1 Veteran
    Owner

    Aug 13, 2001
    5,238
    NYC
    Full Name:
    Kenny


    ANYONE BUT BRUCE!!!! :)
     
  16. Speedracer38

    Speedracer38 F1 Veteran

    Oct 11, 2004
    5,187
    Connecticut
    Full Name:
    Jason Thorgalsen
    Guys it was a mistake....he even admit it. Get over it :rolleyes:
     
  17. wax

    wax Five Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa

    Jul 20, 2003
    52,421
    SFPD
    Full Name:
    Dirty Harry
    It was an honest mistake.
     
  18. Fan512bbi

    Fan512bbi Two Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Mar 25, 2004
    20,938
    Wales-UK
    Full Name:
    Steve.
    How does that happen?? i mean the IP's being the same.
     
  19. Blackbird4life

    Blackbird4life Formula 3

    Jul 8, 2005
    2,164
    You point out questionable actions on his part, I'm just not sure how to make a decision out of it. He has been a mod for awhile now and other positions of power havent come across his way. From past experience, I recall others understanding his decisions. In the end, having a member poll would only be taken into account by them........which i'm sure wouldnt change much.

    I'll agree with you on that, before a evolution took place, there was far more Ferrari-related threads. I wouldn't mind seeing more of that :)

    A member who provides pics and setting up events for members of F-chat isnt bad at all. I also believe he is nice if you dont cross the line.

    You've been here longer than me, this mistake isnt really the debate.
     
  20. richard_wallace

    richard_wallace Formula 3

    Feb 6, 2004
    1,957
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Full Name:
    Richard Wallace
    I will chime in - I have known Vik for about 2 years. Personally he is one of the nicest guys to deal with, talk with, etc. He is always willing to listen, give advice, take advise, etc.

    I do not follow all the bannings, moderator stuff, etc. - so I will not chime in on that part.

    But as we are all adults here is my recommendation:

    Obviously there are people with hard feelings or issues with how Vik "moderates". Why don't we give suggestions to help and make Vik a better moderator - that way he can take these points (which he will take them and listen) - and work to improve - instead of the public lynching.

    Remember - this moderator thing is not a paid job, and probably sometimes more hassle than it is worth. So lets be constructive and make your points, this could also help other moderators get valuable input as well on the things that you like and dislike when things happen.

    I personally do not like even posting to these types of "issues". I use the site to gain and give (when I can) my opinion, help, etc on car related and sometimes fun related stuff. But as I would with anyone on this site - knowing them or not - I don't like to see this type of stuff without trying to correct the problem before escalation is needed.

    Rich Wallace
     
  21. JPF

    JPF Formula Junior

    Sep 11, 2003
    525
    NY
    Full Name:
    Joshua
    Rich,

    All very good, very mature thoughts and ideas. I would agree entirely, but for the following:

    Ghost's method of moderating is not new, nor are other's problems with that method. If the critiscm of his method has not motivated Ghost to change said method yet, I seriously doubt he is every going to.

    P.S. - I have met Ghost once, a couple of years ago (though I doubt he would remember it, although I helped him detail his car). He seemed like a nice guy, bu that was my only personal experience with him.
     
  22. Fast Shadow

    Fast Shadow Karting

    Dec 18, 2004
    126
    Point Dume, CA
    Full Name:
    Josh
    Your credibility is zero unless you wish to publically apologize for the time you told someone that you hope he crashes his car and for various moronic comments about his family.
     
  23. MarkPDX

    MarkPDX F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa

    Apr 21, 2003
    15,111
    Gulf Coast
    Hope nobody minds another mod weighing in here.......

    I never really paid much attention to Vik or the NYTS section but he asked for my assistance looking into if it was a case of multiple accounts. When I looked at it the IP's for Mooseclipper it looked like a solid match with Hubert. It's rather time consuming to compare and contrast individual posts and their associated IPs and most of the time simply looking at the IPs is sufficient to establish a match. Unfortunately this is one of those rare cases where it was not. Again I apologize for my part and this will be a reminder to keep an open mind and not rush to judgement until other possibilities have been explored.


    In most cases it's because the member(s) involved are posting from the same location.
     
  24. Fan512bbi

    Fan512bbi Two Time F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Mar 25, 2004
    20,938
    Wales-UK
    Full Name:
    Steve.
    You mean the same PC??
     
  25. MarkPDX

    MarkPDX F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa

    Apr 21, 2003
    15,111
    Gulf Coast
    Or the same location at home/office.
     

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