Mondial 8 threw a rod

You need to understand the extent of damage. Remove the motor and evaluate the damage.

 

The other option is to call one of the car salvager places (GT Car Parts) and sell it to them at the salvage value. Even if the block is bad, the heads and transmission and the rest of the car still have values.

That is the easiest for you, shortest path through the pain, and quickest path to money. You won't get 20K but you will get 15K. And, that is more than half to a Mondial T. A few more extra physics classes at night and you are good for another F car.

 

1) Thats a tall order, a road I have been down in the search for a good used engine for my wifes 77GTB. I had to buy a number of them just to get enough parts to make one. That leaves a lot of available parts on the shelf.... just a thought.

2) You need a lot of room to build a bitsa car with two side by side

3) Nope, poor economics

4) Last resort only, back to the available room issue and a limited market place.

I have quite a stash of 2V engine parts from the turds I ended up buying. My bet is I might have enough spares to set you on a forward course to build up an engine on your own. If you really like the car and you have the ability/want to do it yourself.... They say a long winter lies ahead of us and you could build one up that you could trust.

 

That is a nice offer, Dave.

 

What happened??

Low oil?

Man, I am really really sorry this happened to you.

 

Most of us go upside down in these cars. In maintenance I've put more into my car than I'll get out of it in money, but it was worth it in the enjoyment I get out of my car.

It appears your goal is to get into a newer Mondial, a QV or 3.2 or t. This is where the tough decision comes in. The proceeds from your car, and the money you would have put into it will probably get you close to your goal of a newer car. But, very few cars are purchased fully sorted. You may buy one that will then require a pile of money in maintenance such as changing out fuel lines and a leaky clutch slave cylinder and worn brakes, etc. I feel an otherwise sorted car is always worth fixing. And the offer of assistance from davehelms is a good one to be strongly considered.

And if you are able to put an engine together and get it going again, that experience will be a great memory and your children will get to see you overcome adversity.

These are my thoughts, knowing you are looking for ideas to assist with the process.

I'm really sorry this occured, it is my darkest fear that I don't like to acknowledge.

Best wishes.

 

Sorry to hear of this! Dave's offer is, I feel, the most likely way you will be able to get your car repaired without spending serious, serious money. It's going to be a fairly costly repair whichever path you choose. Good luck!

 

No affiliation at all, but I found this Mondial Cabriolet. Judging by the description looks to have had some recent service done.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nice-condition-runs-strong-very-fast-Price-sell-other-308-replica-classic-/200828447989?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2ec24eecf5

$16,900 seems reasonable to me.

Maybe you could part out your old car to offset the cost of the one above.

 

Listed elsewhere at $16,100:

http://apps.facebook.com/marketplace/detail/1984-ferrari-mondial/3186505692-staten-island-newyork-ny/?cm_mmc=FB_PREVIEW-_-www-_-NA-_-NA&rfb_domain=fb.oodle.com

Seems price is pretty negotiable.

Might ask why a seller in Staten Island (NY) has Florida dealer plates on the car......

Regards,
Jerry

 

You may need to call a couple salvage yards to see what you will get for your car. They will likely have to add shipping to their cost of purchase. Also, give Dave a call so you'll have a real solid idea of what costs might be. I think we are interested in salvage value, as you said, it might be much lower than we suspect. I think a lot of the value is tied up in that lump in the back.

 

The people that part these cars out for a living, have a tough time making them pay for themselves.... and have parts of a lump laying around for Years. It can be done, but it is Far from easy to make happen in a profitable way.

There are NO 15K Ferrari's available that dont need a Bunch of work done to make them reliable.... Period. That said, if it has the right things that work and your 8 has the right things to complete what another car needs.... that fills the bill far better with the end goal in mind.

Blocks have little value on a wet liner engine, they dont wear out, that is the least of your concerns. The rotating components that were likely affected by a failure of this nature.... that is where things can get more expensive if needed. You need to know the full extent of the damage before you start making decisions on a direction..... spend NO money on parts until you know the full story.

 

I have sent you a PM regarding a motor I have.

 

Serious question:

What would a 308 long block go for that couldn't be rebuilt (at least cost effectively)?

I have always wanted one as a conversation piece in my man cave. Polish it up and sit it on a stand in the corner of the room or even make a coffee table out of it. It doesn't even have to have the insides. Just block, heads and valvecovers. That's all.

I am not kidding.

 

Sorry the hear of this, but to recap:

Block at Dave Helms.
Rods per post above...
Edwardo has a set of liners....

Maybe you are closer than you think, to getting it back on the road.....

 

Valve covers match the heads...

You can sell your blown block to Dr. Tommy as his display, with the unused parts from your build....

 

Pull it and tear it down, getting the heads OFF, is Step 1......

That's why they are expensive...LOL!
Sometimes they WON'T come off....

See how your motor treats you on the tear down, and post pics of what you find.
Has the Shop had anything to say?

"Sorry we fixed your car, then blew it up".....

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I would think a salvage yard would give 2-3k...Maybe. The motor is the most valuable thing, and the trans.

Very few folks looking for mondial 8 parts...

Most cost efficient answer? Sell it on craigslist, as a whole...

No matter how you cut it, its a huge fianancial loss

 

I have seen this scenario many times. Your cheapest way out sadly is to sell, as is where is.

Call Ted Rutland and see what he will give you for it.

If you decide to repair it (bad choice) I'll give you a matched set of rods but you will still need a crank. No one will give one away.

I have done many of these motors, it will cost way beyond what you expect.

 

I am thinking about getting things that are 100% useless scrap only parts. I would buy a block and pay a little more than a scrap yard would just to get it. Somewhere out there are heads that have a crack that can't be fixed too. I'll buy those empty (no cams etc.) I had a 928 with a cracked head that was not repairable. All it was was a door stop. I bought a cool 78 Scirocco once that had every aftermarket part I ever wanted. It had a hole in the side of the block with part of a rod sticking out. There has to be a 308 engine out there with a similar hole.

If anyone has this stuff, let me know first before you sell it off to melt down

 

Couldn't agree more and mirrors exactly what I've experience through the years.

 

308 QV crank, rods and pistons used available if it would help? PM me.