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Mondial QV Engine Bay detail

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  1. Ade 82 QV

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  2. John Hasty

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    My 89t is silver, not red
     
  3. cockrill

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    The red valve covers aren't factory.
     
  4. vance

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    Yes they are factory. The red is a QV. The black is a Mondial 8.
     
  5. vance

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    Sorry, the plenums are red on the QV.
     
  6. afterburner

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    valve covers weren't red from the factory on QVs
     
  7. greatscott73

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    I don't think valve covers were red on any on the Mondials. Lots of owners powder coat them when changing gaskets.
     
  8. afterburner

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  9. MauroV

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    My early 1983 QV (45157) has a black plenum and just says Ferrari, not Quattrovalvole. I heard they used up all the Mondial 8 parts before fitting the red plenums. The car also has Mondial 8 door cards and rear seat arm-rest with the elasticated pockets but the centre console and steering wheel are QV.

    Mauro
     
  10. afterburner

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    Mauro that's interesting and believable. But I think the centre console was a necessary change due to the updated AC and heating system, whose controls weren't compatible with the 8's console.
     
  11. MauroV

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    Hi Afterburner, that makes sense. I guess they used up all the old parts where they could.
     
  12. afterburner

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    I guess they did. Does your car have one or two mirrors?
     
  13. NeedSpace

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    My plenum is black (or should say was black, most of the paint is gone. When I get update that gasket, I'll get it powder coated. I was thinking of keeping it black to keep it original ,but do other mondial 8 owners paint it red?
     
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  15. MauroV

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    My black plenum has now lost almost all its paint but if the opportunity presents itself I'll put it back to black. Afterburner, my car has 2 mirrors.
     
  16. afterburner

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    Hi Mauro - the very early cars didn't have a passenger mirror.:cool:
     
  17. pietersnodt

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    Wasn't it black for the Swiss market? I have seen 2 Mondials with black headers and they were both initially sold in Switzerland
     
  18. MauroV

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    I think all the Mondial 8s have black plenums and the early QVs also, until they changed to red from about April 1983, as far as I can tell. I don't know if black continued on the Swiss spec models. I don't have access now but I seem to remember seeing a list of Mondial production with a few Mondial 8s for various markets (Australia possibly) built later than my QV. So it wasn't a clean break from Mondial 8s to QVs as you might expect.
     
  19. NeedSpace

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    My 1957 mercedes had NO side mirrors
    My 1980 VW Rabbit had NO passenger side mirror
    My 1976 Porsche 911 has both mirrors
    My 1982 Ferrari Mondial 8 has both mirrors

    Funny, I just learned in NJ you are not required as of today to have a passenger side mirror provided you have a center rearview mirror. In 1965 they required a driver side mirror and center mirror. That explains why my 1980 Rabbit only had 1 sideview mirror and my mercedes has none.
     
  20. afterburner

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    Re mirrors: The basic European rule is a minimum of 2 mirrors - either external driver side plus centre internal OR 2 externals (panel vans, loaded station wagons).

    Re plenums: I think the color was linked to the shape, and there was a cross-over from 8 to QV where 8 plenums were fitted to early QVs. I have never seen an original 8 plenum in red, I think they were all red.

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