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Mondial T water leak: any alternative to OEM water hose (139468)

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  1. alecxx

    alecxx Rookie

    Jun 14, 2023
    4
    Hi,

    In 4Mo ownership on my 93 T Cab, after a big and expensive service, I m pleased with all usual Mondial gremlins: rear window, strange electrical paranormal events, and now a water/ antifreeze leak.

    The car (30.000Km) just undergo a major service but the water pump which was deemed as still in very good conditions.

    After driving ca 500Km I have noticed a sudden increase in the motor temperature while “idling” or driving in the city (up to 100/105C!!!) coupled with some water leak when stationary.

    A Ferrari mechanical advise it might be time to change the water hoses 139468…

    As they are quite expensive in Germany (ca 350 for 2X after custom duties), is there any better and cheaper solution around?

    I have just spend over 10.000€ in a major service…

    thanks in advance!
     
  2. mike32

    mike32 F1 Veteran

    May 13, 2016
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    Isle of man- uk
    Superperformance in uk showing in stock @£60 . Also look for local company making them as only a curved hose, measure the inside size.
     
  3. yelcab

    yelcab F1 World Champ
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    Nov 29, 2001
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    When I need to replace those, I take them down to a local automotive supply store and go through their hose supply (hanging on a wall) and find a hose that has a section that look like that right angle hose and cut it out. It's never more than $20US. No shipping, no import duties.

    That hose where the Mondial T is really really should have been changed while the $10,000 engine out was done.
     
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  4. alecxx

    alecxx Rookie

    Jun 14, 2023
    4
    Thanks! This was helpful!
     
  5. alecxx

    alecxx Rookie

    Jun 14, 2023
    4
    I agree…same holds true for the window. In latter case, it just happened right after, but the preventive maintenance on the hoses / Water pump could have been done.
     
  6. Wingnut

    Wingnut Karting

    Feb 11, 2005
    155
    Corolla, NC
    Hello Alec
    My thought is that coolant hoses during the expensive engine service were reconnected incorrectly, that perhaps two hoses were reconnected backwards.
    This happened with a major service of my Mondial t- before bought it. I was running hot on occasion. My mechanic discovered mistake and corrected their placement. My Mondial t has run cool ever since, even in the hottest summer heat.
    Perhaps your least expensive measure at this point is to have an independent mechanic trace all coolant hoses for correct placement before doing any more work on your coolant system.
     
  7. Alden

    Alden F1 Rookie
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    Apr 25, 2010
    3,602
    Central Florida
    Sounds like you're cooling fans may not be coming on when you're stuck in traffic.
    Alden
     
  8. MvT

    MvT F1 Rookie

    May 25, 2013
    4,261
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    Tijn
    #8 MvT, Aug 31, 2023
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2023
    Hi Alec

    May I ask if you went to the Ferrari dealer? If so bring it back and they should fix it for free! Either way it is their fault. Meaning not connected properly or the hose was bad and needed to be replaced like wingnut already mentioned.

    350 euro is outrages. that is not the Ferrari price for a dealership for this all-round 90 degree tube

    This is the real Ferrari price.. When I would order this in NL I would pay this (add VAT to it and it will be 120 euro):
    Part Search Results | Maranello Classic Parts (ferrariparts.co.uk)
     
  9. 85QVEuro

    85QVEuro Formula Junior

    Jan 15, 2021
    545
    NYC
    Full Name:
    Joe
    alecxx - have you measured the ID of the hose and tried to match that to a Gates hose, then trim the length to suit? Below is a link to an alternative to the Ferrari upper radiator hose for a Mondial QV - I purchased one from Rock Auto for $9, trimmed the legs as needed and it works perfectly and looks stock:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Gates+20267&oq=Gates+20267&aqs=chrome..69i57.4796j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    I know you are not looking for an upper radiator hose but this should help you find something less expensive
     
  10. yelcab

    yelcab F1 World Champ
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  11. alecxx

    alecxx Rookie

    Jun 14, 2023
    4
    Thanks everybody, I have ordered from. Super performance Uk; 156GBP+ 56€ custom duties…crazy!

    I hope this will solve the leak and related over temp while “idling”.

    So far my Ferrari experience haven’t been that great.
     

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