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  1. steviep6

    steviep6 Rookie

    Mar 7, 2006
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    Anybody have any fixs for a dead window motor in my Mondial Cab? Passenger rear motor bad-will another motor bolt in? FNA wants $900.00 for a new one !! Thanks.
     
  2. racespecferrari

    racespecferrari F1 Veteran

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    Click on search at the top as there are several threads with reference to this, Mondials are notoriously slow and I have heard of cases where new motors have been fitted and made no difference
     
  3. No Doubt

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    Hetek has a great "how to" on fixing that window motor: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=135373569&postcount=14

    FYI, it is a standard Bosch motor (found in countless cars). You can find it used on eBay or have it rebuilt (or re-wired to make it run faster) for $50 or less. It just unbolts from the window assembly.
     
  4. Chiaro_Slag

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    Setting the cables back up correctly is a biatch! I kinked mine during the process & had to buy a new part & then left it to my mechanic to re-install.
     
  5. steviep6

    steviep6 Rookie

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    Thank you-We've got a couple of 55 degree days coming up this weekend, I'm going to get on it.
     
  6. racespecferrari

    racespecferrari F1 Veteran

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    Have fun, Its snowing here in the Uk :-(
     
  7. AR!

    AR! Formula Junior

    Apr 8, 2004
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    Any chance you know the Bosch part# .. .. I need to replace my rear window motor ..

    Regards
    Thorsten
     
  8. stekkefun4

    stekkefun4 Formula 3
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    I have a couple of spare window motors on sale in the parts section. Working great, but keep in mind that the problem is mainly caused by hardened grease around the moving parts and that has to be removed and treated with new grease.
     
  9. No Doubt

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  10. AR!

    AR! Formula Junior

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    Great advice! Thank you very much!
     
  11. No Doubt

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  12. AR!

    AR! Formula Junior

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    #12 AR!, Feb 24, 2010
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    My rear window motor wasn´t of the BOSCH type. Presumably Magneti Marelli. Anyway, I found a spare motor and I'm in the process of replacing the old one.

    Here are some photographs, just in case they could be helpful for someone else with a broken unit from a t. I will report again as soon as the fixed unit is back in place.
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  13. ckracing

    ckracing Formula Junior

    May 20, 2006
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    Check the voltage at the window motor when you press the window button. My voltage was 6 volts. I used DPDT relays with a fused hot wire. Do a search it will show the procedure.
     
  14. FF8929

    FF8929 Formula Junior

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    Where did you get the DPDT relays? Brand name, model? Thanks in advance.
     
  15. AR!

    AR! Formula Junior

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    #15 AR!, Feb 27, 2010
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2010
    Thanks a lot for the hint! In case anyone else in interested in the thread mentioned, I guess it it this one: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229991


    The source can be found in the thread mentioned above (post 22).
     
  16. FF8929

    FF8929 Formula Junior

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  17. AR!

    AR! Formula Junior

    Apr 8, 2004
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    It's done.

    List price (Ferrari) for the complete unit: ca. 1000 EUR but unobtainable on this planet
    Price for the used spare motor: 25 EUR

    I didn't manage to find the FIAT type for the complete assembly. But it seems the window motor itself has been assembled in millions of FIATs, so finding a used replacement motor is pretty easy.
     

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