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Monterey auction thread (the '24 edition)

Discussion in 'Vintage Ferrari Market' started by Timmmmmmmmmmy, May 21, 2024.

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  1. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    Cardiff, UK
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    Steven Robertson
    #26 miurasv, Jun 9, 2024
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2024
    I didn't notice the statement on the build sheets stating Competition engine with normal camshafts (translated) and now the build sheets seem to have now been removed from the RM Sotheby's website. Not disputing what you say but strange that it's a comp engine with normal (NON Tipo 130) camshafts with 9, not 10 mm lift. However, the RM Sotheby's site should state that it's a Competition engine with normal camshafts rather than omitting it as they have. Although the camshafts, as well as the lift, are not the only things, they are primary in the specification that make a competition engine, or not.

    Agree with the rest of what you say. My post was not to criticise either of these fabulous cars btw.
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  2. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    Cardiff, UK
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    Steven Robertson
    #27 miurasv, Jun 9, 2024
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2024
    @mechaniker @DWR46 I actually saw the #1795 build sheets in the George Carrick Spyder California book, not on the RMS website. I can't see anything in the spec in the build sheets that indicates this is a competition engine apart from the 40 DCL 6 Webers and the trombetto. So it's only the external ancillaries of the engine, nothing internal on the engine such as standard and no tipo 130 cams, only 9 mm lift, does not have 128LM tipo valves, only 9.3 compression ratio. Maximum BHP reading is 240.7 at 7000 rpm so standard power, not a competition level power engine.

    I cannot recall any V12 250/275 Ferrari Competition car/engine from this period that does not have Tipo 130 camshafts with 10 mm lift.
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  3. Enzo Anselmo Ferrari

    Enzo Anselmo Ferrari Formula Junior

    Apr 4, 2009
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  4. 375+

    375+ F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 28, 2005
    0493 SA does not have its original engine.
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  5. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ

    Mar 2, 2005
    But it is red book certified by F Classiche.

    Marcel Massini
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  6. readplays

    readplays Formula 3

    Aug 22, 2008
    New York City
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    Dave Powers
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  7. merstheman

    merstheman F1 Rookie

    Apr 13, 2007
    São Paulo, Brazil
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    Quick question: were the open headlight 400 SA Coupés also called "Aerodinamico"?

    Has 400SA been brought back to its original configuration or does it still feature tan leather? Are there color photos of the car in Blu Lancia?
  8. redfred84

    redfred84 Formula Junior

    Dec 24, 2010
    SF Bay Area, USA
    I remember this car last year at Monterey Car Week, along with it's friendly owner. It was stated that it was in original paint (it looked it, as there was much patina), but I have since heard that this may even be a color changing repaint? Is the replacement engine the same type as the original, but only with incorrect number stampings?
  9. merstheman

    merstheman F1 Rookie

    Apr 13, 2007
    São Paulo, Brazil
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    I meant to write 2631 SA in the bottom there, sorry.
  10. 7litre

    7litre Rookie

    May 30, 2024
    Northville, Michigan
    #35 7litre, Jul 2, 2024
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2024
    Mecum has now added a couple interesting Ferraris to their lot list along with other “main attractions".

    The two Ferraris are:

    Lot R326 which is David Lee's 1967 Ferrari 275 GTB/4 chassis 10583

    Lot R325, David Lee's beautiful 1967 Ferrari 330 GTS chassis 10561 last sold at a hammer price of $700,000 at RM Amelia Island in 2011.

    Mecum's 1965 Ferrari 275 GTS chassis 06809 has also been added to the run list along with his 1959 BMW 507 chassis 70242, his 1959 Porsche 718 RSK chassis 718028, and his 1936 Delahaye Type 135 chassis 47242.

    The other main attractions that have been added are:

    1969 Lamborghini Miura P400 S chassis 3919

    2023 Ducati Streetfighter V4 Lamborghini STO chassis ZDMFAKWW2PB000230

    1992 Schuppan-Porsche 962CR chassis AS 962CR 05/50

    2005 Porsche Carrera GT chassis WP0CA29895L001233

    2005 Porsche Carrera GT chassis WP0CA29845L001253

    The "Ex-Steve McQueen" 1963 Shelby 289 Cobra Roadster chassis CSX2161

    2003 Ferrari Enzo chassis ZFFCW56AX30131631

    The Ex-Harrah and General Lyon 1930 Packard 734 Speedster Boattail Runabout chassis 184095

    Nevada Classics' 1969 Dodge Hemi Daytona XX29J9B383276

    Nevada Classics' and Ex-Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum
    1955 Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing chassis 1980405500263

    Nevada Classics' and Ex-Peter Klutt
    1970 Plymouth Hemi Cuda Convertible chassis BS27R0B305097

    1959 Mercedes-Benz 190SL Roadster chassis 1210409500999

    Don Davis' 1957 Mercedes-Benz 300SL Roadster chassis 1980427500523
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  11. 7litre

    7litre Rookie

    May 30, 2024
    Northville, Michigan
    Mecum has added another of David Lee’s beautiful Ferraris to their lot list. This time it’s the 1971 Ferrari 365 GTS/4 Daytona Spider chassis 14403. Photo courtesy of Mecum Auctions.
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  12. markus77

    markus77 Formula Junior

    Nov 3, 2019
    I saw on the RM Sotheby's website that the Ferrari 365 GTC chassis number 11823 painted black will be auctioned in Monterey.
    I think it's the first 365 GTC produced by Ferrari.
    I kindly ask if it is the same car as the press photos below.
    And if it isn't, I ask you what the chassis number of the car is in the following photos.
    Thanks in advance
    Credits: Ferrari (I believe)
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  13. markus77

    markus77 Formula Junior

    Nov 3, 2019
    I found the answer to my question on the auction house's website (information entered after I asked the question)
    Yes it's the same car.
    thanks anyway.
  14. Terra

    Terra F1 Rookie
    Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 16, 2004
    I think you also forgot about/omitted 2175GT from your very shortlist.
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  15. mechaniker

    mechaniker Formula Junior

    May 30, 2004
    Just forgot it... But more important, you are correct!

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