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  1. Timmmmmmmmmmy

    Timmmmmmmmmmy F1 Rookie

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    #26 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Jul 17, 2013
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    Just to try and keep track of things and also invite people to join in conversation on the subject. Have limited MY list to Ferraris of note and anything else that is likely to go seven figues. Updated with TRC & 250 Europa information courtesy of MM. Also updated latest lots from RM. Estimates are where declared by Auction house (Jaguar D - Type, NART Spider will not have any declared estimate).

    RM Auctions August 16th & 17th @ Portola Hotel
    Ferrari
    1950 Ferrari 166 MM #0038 - Est. US$3 - 3.5 million
    1954 Ferrari 500 Mondial #0418 - Est.US$2.7 - 3.2 million
    1955 Ferrari 750 Monza #0530 -Est. US$3.4 - 4 million
    1956 Ferrari 250 GT Boano Berlinetta #0625GT
    1957 Ferrari 250 GT Ellena Berlinetta #0807GT
    1959 Ferrari 250 GT Pininfarina Berlinetta #1427GT
    1960 Ferrari 250 GT Pininfarina Series II Cabriolet #1939
    1961 Ferrari 400 SA #2841SA - Est. US$2.5 - 3 million
    1961 Ferrari 250 GT Pininfarina Series II Cabriolet #2863GT
    1964 Ferrari 250 GT Lusso #5537 - Est. US$1.1 - 1.4 mil.
    1966 Ferrari 275 GTS #7331 - Est. US$800,000 - 1.0 mil.
    1967 Ferrari 275 GTB/4*S #10709
    1967 Ferrari 330 GTC #10745
    1969 Ferrari 365 GTC #12203
    1970 Ferrari 365 GTB/4 #13361
    1971 Ferrari 365 GTC/4 #14455 - (No Reserve)
    1971 Ferrari 365 GTS/4 #14829 - (No Reserve?)
    1972 Ferrari 365 GTC/4 #15635
    1973 Ferrari 365 GTB/4 #16691
    1974 Ferrari 246 GTS #08274
    1974 Ferrari 246 GTS #08500
    1984 Ferrari 512 BBi #ZFFJA09B000051335 - (No Reserve)
    1990 Ferrari F40 #ZFFMN34A3L0086658
    1995 Ferrari F50 #ZFFTA46B000099999 - Est. US$1.2 - 1.6 mil.
    1996 Ferrari 333 SP #015

    Other
    1928 Mercedes Benz S - Type #35949
    1931 Duesenberg model SJ Murphy Convertible #2367/J-345 - Est. US$2 - 2.5 mil.
    1932 Bentley 8 Litre Saloon #YX5105
    1935 Hispano - Suiza K6 Brandone #16035 - Est. US$1 - 1.5mil.
    1939 Mercedes Benz 540K Special Roadster #408383
    1953 Maserati A6GCS #2053 - Est. US$2.5 - 3 million
    1953c Maserati A6G #2190 - Est. US$800,000 - 1.2 mil.
    1955 Jaguar D - Type #XKD530
    1960 Maserati Tipo 61 #2461 - Est. US$3 - 4 million

    Gooding - August 17th & 18th @ Pebble Beach
    Ferrari
    1955 Ferrari 250 GT Berline Competizione #0415 - Est. US$6.5 - 7.5 mil.
    1957 Ferrari 500 TRC #0690 -
    1957 Ferrari 250 Tour de France #0703GT - Est. US$9 - 11 mil.
    1965 Ferrari 500 Superfast #5985 - Est. US$1.75 - 2.25 mil.
    1965 Ferrari 275 GTB Alloy Long Nose #7887 - Est. US$2.25 - 2.5 mil.
    1966 Ferrari 330 GT 2 + 2 - Est. US$180,000 - 220,000
    1967 Ferrari 330 GTC Coupe
    1969 Ferrari 365 GTC
    1971 Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Michelotti Spider "Marion" - Est. US$700,000 - 1.0 mil.
    1974 Ferrari Dino 246GTS
    1990 Ferrari F40 LM - Est. US$2 - 2.5 mil.

    Other
    1929 Bentley Speed Six Grafton Coupe #FR2630 - Est. US$3 - 4 mil.
    1929 Duesenberg model J Murphy Convertible
    1933 Rolls Royce Phantom II #71MW - Est US$1 - 1.3 mil.
    1948 Alfa Romeo 6C2500 Competizione #920002 - Est. US$2.8 - 3.2 mil.
    1954 Bentley R - Type Continental #BC5LD - Est. US$1.75 - 2.25 mil.
    1954 Bentley R - Type Continental Park Ward DHC #BC8D - Est. US$1.0 - 1.5 mil.
    1956 Maserati 150S - Est. US$2.25 - 3.0 mil.
    1958 Maserati 3500GT Spider Prototype - Est. US$1 mil. +
    1964 Shelby Cobra - Est. US$2 - 2.5 mil.

    Bonhams - August 16th @ Quail Lodge
    Ferrari
    1953 Ferrari 250 Europa Vignale Berlinetta #0313EU -
    1965 Ferrari 275 GTS

    Other
    1924 Bugatti Type 35 Prototype #4323
    1930 Bentley 4.5 Litre Blower Le Mans Spec. Tourer #MS3944
    1958 Lister - Chevrolet 1964 "Barn find"

    Mecum - August 15th - 17th @ Hyatt Regency Hotel
    Ferrari
    1954 Ferrari 750 Monza #0462M
    1990 Ferrari F40 #ZFFMN34A9L0086602

    Other
    1938 Delage D8-120 Aerosport Coupe #51617
    1955 Porsche 550/1500RS #550-077
    1964 Shelby Cobra #CSX2487

    Russo & Steele - August 15th - 17th @ Waterfront
    Ferrari
    1949 Ferrari 166 Inter Farina Berlinetta #037S
     
  2. RallyeChris

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    #27 RallyeChris, Jul 17, 2013
    This is a magnificent example. The current owner stopped-by the facility I was working in at the time to see some of the work we were doing on his son's Porsche. He was driving 2845gt that day, having recently acquired her. The right tail light was out, so I remedied it for him - at no charge, of course. That, in itself, was an honor.

    It showed very well at the Americana Concours in Manhassett that year, as well.
     
  3. P.Singhof

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    #28 P.Singhof, Jul 17, 2013
    What you quote as a "private customer special" is the most important Blower Bentley in existence. The Blower Bentley was not used by the factory as a race car as W.O.Bentley prefered the Speed Six. Tim Birkin was the one that raced the 4 "Birkin Team Blowers", the other 50 were built with the financial background of Woolf Baranto by the factory just to homologate the Birkin Blowers, they did not even sell great back then. The single seater sold last year at Goodwood is the track car of Birkin and set the lap record in Brooklands...Beside the other 3 Birkin Blower just a couple of Speed Six (especially Old Number One and the Blue Train Bentley) and Team Car 4 1/2 Litre can match the importance of UU5871...
    Certainly the Blower of Bonhams is nice but normally it will not get the same money
     
  4. Marcel Massini

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    #29 Marcel Massini, Jul 17, 2013
    NOT 2845 GT.

    Marcel Massini
     
  5. Marcel Massini

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    #30 Marcel Massini, Jul 17, 2013
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  6. ggjjr

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    #31 ggjjr, Jul 18, 2013
    Marcel,
    whatever you define it as. Seeing what you would include was part of the question. : )

    George
     
  7. 275GTBSaran

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    #32 275GTBSaran, Jul 18, 2013
    Gooding just posted a picture on their website of a nice 14 Louvre TDF - they will be offering at Monterey. The 14 Louvre in my opinion is one of the nicest Ferraris that were ever made. I found a video of the car being offered. The owner is Gregg Whitten and if I am not mistaken he also owns a 250 GTO. I wonder if he thinks the market has peaked and he is selling to take advantage? ;) I am aware he probably does not need the money owning several other fine cars....

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMMtgbXvBIE]1957 FERRARI 250 GT LWB TdF Scaglietti race car - YouTube[/ame]
     
  8. 275GTBSaran

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    #33 275GTBSaran, Jul 18, 2013
    Gooding just posted a picture on their website of a nice 14 Louvre TDF - they will be offering at Monterey. The 14 Louvre in my opinion is one of the nicest Ferraris that were ever made. I found a video of the car being offered. The owner is Gregg Whitten and if I am not mistaken he also owns a 250 GTO. I wonder if he thinks the market has peaked and he is selling to take advantage? ;) I am aware he probably does not need the money owning several other fine cars....

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMMtgbXvBIE]1957 FERRARI 250 GT LWB TdF Scaglietti race car - YouTube[/ame]
     
  9. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    #34 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Jul 18, 2013
    Corrected in list above on page 2..............
     
  10. 275GTBSaran

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    #35 275GTBSaran, Jul 18, 2013
    I found another documentary featuring Chassis 0703. Happy viewing!

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9dZz1O-2tA]TdF 0793 to Monterey - YouTube[/ame]
     
  11. Simon^2

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    #36 Simon^2, Jul 18, 2013
    Can someone tell me specifics about the D Type?
     
  12. ginge82

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    #37 ginge82, Jul 18, 2013
    An interview of Mr. Whitten discussing his 1957 Tdf.(0703GT)

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJBqtoXlBDs]1957 Ferrari Tour De France at Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance - YouTube[/ame]
     
  13. geno berns

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    #38 geno berns, Jul 18, 2013
    Just look at the line up RM put together. I have not seen as many vintage Ferraris at this venue before. Some of the cars are exceptional and very important and rare offerings that don't come around often.

     
  14. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    #39 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Jul 18, 2013
    phillip Porter (Jag expert said this mid 1990's)

    Supplied to Suomen Maanviljelijain Kauppa Oy, Tampere, Finland; sold to Kurt Lincoln (Helsinki); 1956 over 2-litre race, Djurgard Park, 1st; raced successfully on road, ice and sand; raced by Timo Makinen; 1959/60 overhauled at works; 1961 Formula Libre race, Central Automobile Club of the USSR (believed to be the only time a D-type has ever raced in Russia), H. Hietarinta, 1st; 1966 sold to Nigel Moores; rebodied possibly using body made by Williams &Pritchard; 1988 sold to Yoshijuki Hayashi (Japan). Later reported to be two cars with XKD 530 identity.

    One car built around original front subframe and long-nose bodywork, which Jaguar World states to be the car that carries the correct identity; owned by Andrew Baber (Forest of Daan, UK).

    A second car was built up around the original damaged monocoque and original engine, transmission, and tail section. acquired from the Moores estate; 199? offered for sale in Brooks auction; 1993 passed, via Adrian Hamilton, to Arthur Urciuoli (USA).

    Now both parts were purchased by Gary Bartlett and reunited by CKL to form one car bearing the serial number XKD530. See the link below for more

    The Case of the Disjointed D: American Jaguar enthusiast Gary Bartlett puts a split Brit back together - Autoweek
     
  15. Simon^2

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    #40 Simon^2, Jul 19, 2013
    Thanks. I thought this was the one a friend once called "the double-D", prior to the reunion.

    I'm curious to see where it ends up...
     
  16. tongascrew

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    #41 tongascrew, Jul 20, 2013
    A sign of the times? Yes, if you have to sell this is one of the best events. I am sure there is a different reason behind each of these sales. Any comments. tongascew
     
  17. Marcel Massini

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    #42 Marcel Massini, Jul 20, 2013
    There will be more than 60 (sixty) Ferraris available at the various auctions in Monterey and Pebble Beach.

    Marcel Massini
     
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    #43 tongascrew, Jul 20, 2013
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    #44 ginge82, Jul 20, 2013
    It was uploaded on the 3rd of September 2010 and he was interviewed in August at Pebble Beach. Nearly three years ago.

    Things change.
     
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    #45 tongascrew, Jul 20, 2013
    I would definitely agree with this.If I were in the position of considering purchase of any early Ferrari I would contract with Mr Massini for a full plate of advice. What is really scarey is some of these cars "fully restored" only to discover a horror show underneath the resto. I have files on several of these and it's not a pretty picture. tongascrew
     
  21. Tenney

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    #46 Tenney, Jul 20, 2013
    And not a bad market to sell into, in any event?
     
  22. thepinkumbrella

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    #47 thepinkumbrella, Jul 21, 2013
    The ex-Agnelli Superamerica # 1517 SA will be offered by Gooding & Co.

    Paul
     
  23. Marcel Massini

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    #48 Marcel Massini, Jul 21, 2013
    Besides Agnelli 1517 SA was also owned by Anita Ekberg, the Swedish actress. She bought it on the 19th October 1962 and kept it until the 27th May 1966.

    Marcel Massini
     
  24. mdempsey

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    #49 mdempsey, Jul 21, 2013
    Oddly enough not a single 365 GT? anywhere in the auctions? Very odd as these are the entry level vintage front engine V12's.
     
  25. 87testa

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    #50 87testa, Jul 21, 2013
     
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