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  1. Juan-Manuel Fantango

    Juan-Manuel Fantango F1 World Champ
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    #1 Juan-Manuel Fantango, May 13, 2014
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    Just goofing on globalplanesearch and came across this tonight. Saw one at EAA a few years ago that was cool. I guess this is the first VLJ? Looks cool..anyone on here every flown one? Tell us about it. Hard to believe it is 55 years old!

    "-Amazing Aircraft in the VLJ Market, If you like the thrill of a true sportster and the feel of a fighter this aircraft is your perfect find.This aircraft has been completely restored and freshly painted and is ready to be flown.

    4 Seat Jet that likes to cruise at 400m.p.h. with a range of 1000+ miles!!!!

    Contact Alden Andre (503) 929-8814 to answer any and all questions regarding this remarkable aircraft, and get ready to pilot the Sportster of the Sky's."


    *PARIS JET* twin engine VLJ - Jet Aircraft For Sale - AeroController - New and Used Aircraft For Sale
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  2. boxerman

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    #2 boxerman, May 13, 2014
    Built 1959 I am gussing it burns a lot of gas, and is lacking in the type of safety and systems we prefer these days.
     
  3. LetsJet

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    #3 LetsJet, May 14, 2014
    I'd be curious what they want for it.

    Doesn't mention the ceiling or if it's pressurized.
     
  4. solofast

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    #4 solofast, May 14, 2014
    Yes, for what it is it's pretty thirsty compared to modern turbofans.

    Depending on what version, the engines are pretty much the same as the J69 in the Tweet... Reliable and long life, but being turbojets they use a good bit of fuel.

    Just because it can be pretty inexpensive to buy doesn't mean it's inexpensive to fly...
     
  5. Tcar

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    #5 Tcar, May 14, 2014
    Typical Specs:

    Twin turbojets.

    Fuel Capacity: 484 gallons useable,
    Fuel Burn: 130 GPH Cruise
    Maximum Range: 922 NM
    Maximum Speed: 350 KTS
    Normal Cruise Speed: 290 Knots
    Maximum Takeoff Weight: 8650 Lbs.
    Useful load with full fuel: 720 Lbs

    No info that I found on pressurization; but ceiling is about FL320


    FWIW, there was a short-lived agreement w/ Beechcraft in the late 50's to market them in the US.

    It looks to me like it could have been the 'model' for the Learjet... it looks more like a Lear than the Swiss P-16 that Bill apparently saw.
     
  6. tazandjan

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    #6 tazandjan, May 14, 2014
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  7. nerofer

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    #7 nerofer, May 15, 2014
    Nice to see the "Paris" remembered, but the pretty lady has aged somewhat since her heydays...
    Her main utilisators were the French Air Force, with 36; the French Navy, 14; the Fuerza Aerea Argentina, 48; and Brasil with 30 (of which, 23 came back to France)

    No need to expand on the Wikipedia entry for it, it is rather well written:

    Morane-Saulnier MS.760 Paris - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Note that when "Jet set" in Florida bought the type certification from the former holder Daher-Socata on Nov 2nd, 2009, they also bought all tooling, and, according to the french Wiki, 40 time-expired aircraft from Brasil, Argentina and France, with a view to sell the jets after overhauling them, for about $ 500.000; and they were considering to re-engine these also, should the plane find enough customers.

    Rgds
     

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