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  1. turbo-joe

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    great video
    but poor clutch when parking beside the porsche :(
     
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    #552 miurasv, Apr 20, 2020
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    A few years ago I did a body comparison from how 3387GT's body details were originally, which were (are) actually unique amongst 250 GTOs, at the 250 GTO's maiden race at Sebring, 1962 to how they were for many years before its restoration.

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    Great stuff Steve.
     
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  4. mcimino

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    So much for the originality argument about valuations... the most valuable car in the world has been chopped up to an individual's interpretation? I'd take $20 million right off top. ;)
     
  5. Chelle

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    Here's a pic with the filler in the window and a picture of the first GTO with an even different location for the filler. For some reason, I have stuck in my head that the first 2 GTOs began with the gas filler on the left fender. I've only found pics of the first one with it there, not #3387.. so maybe I'm remembering something incorrectly or whoever may have told me that was simply misinformed


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  7. miurasv

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    #557 miurasv, Apr 20, 2020
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    3223GT and 3387GT were the 2 250 GTO development prototypes. 3387GT is said to have initially had the fuel filler in the right rear wing, then the left rear wing, as 3223GT, which was covered up for the Monza Test in early March, 62 and actually placed inside the boot. This is where the rear spoiler was incorporated as well as the Watts Linkage initially tested. The fuel filler was then moved above the boot in the top left corner, as it was at Sebring, 1962 to give more clearance for the wheel inside the wheel well. It was actually the North American Racing Team that moved 3387GT's fuel filler to inside the rear window before Le Mans, 1962 where it remained for much of its racing life.
     
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    Do you know if it has been restored?
     
  11. Marcel Massini

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    Sure it has.
    By Butch Dennison's in Puyallup, WA.
    Photo was taken September 2017 during the 55th Anniversary Meeting of the 250 GTO's in Tuscany, Italy.

    Marcel Massini
     
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    Thanks
     
  13. Marcel Massini

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    Check the 2017 GTO 55th anniversary thread, plenty of pix.

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  14. miurasv

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    #564 miurasv, Apr 20, 2020
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    I believe #3223GT was the 250 GTO that Willy Mairesse crashed while testing the car on the Bologna to Firenze Autostrada as described by Ing. Forghieri in the Davide Cironi video below that led to the Watts Linkage being added to the GTO's specification as well as the reduction in the metal thickness of the helicoidal springs on the rear shock absorbers:

     
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  15. F140FG

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    Is there a thread with all the S/Ns with pictures of the 250 GTO?
     
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    Would it be correct to say this one of the more seldom seen GTO's?
     
  17. miurasv

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    #567 miurasv, Apr 21, 2020
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    See link here and click on each car for history.

    If you are a 250 GTO fan there are a number of good books on the subject including Ferrari 250 GTO by Keith Bluemel with Jess Pourret and Ferrari 250 GTO. The History of a Legend by Anthony Pritchard.

    250 GTO List.
    1. 3223GT
    2. 3387GT
    3. 3413GT S1 to S2 '64 Body Style.
    4. 3445GT
    5. 3451GT
    6. 3505GT RHD
    7. 3527GT
    8. 3589GT RHD
    9. 3607GT
    10. 3647GT RHD
    11. 3705GT
    12. 3729GT RHD
    13. 3757GT
    14. 3767GT RHD
    15. 3769GT
    16. 3809GT
    17. 3851GT
    18. 3869GT RHD
    19. 3909GT
    20. 3943GT
    21. 3987GT
    22. 4091GT S1 to S2 '64 Body Style.
    23. 4115GT
    24. 4153GT
    25. 4219GT
    26. 4293GT
    27. 4399GT RHD S1 to S2 '64 Body Style.
    28. 4491GT RHD
    29. 4675GT S1 to S2 '64 Body Style.
    30. 4713GT Lusso/LMB Body Style.
    31. 4757GT
    32. 5095GT
    33. 5111GT
    34. 5571GT S2 '64
    35. 5573GT S2 '64
    36. 5575GT S2 '64
    4 Litre 330 LM with 250 GTO Body Style.
    1. 3765LM
    2. 4561SA RHD sold as a road car.
     
  18. turbo-joe

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    zender in germany ( former official Ferrari dealer ) made once 38 models. ( around 1985? ) scale I not remember anymore. but about 40 - 50 cm long.
    does somebody knows where this collection now is?
     
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  20. GIOTTO

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    Here's #4561SA. Photo that I took at the Nürburgring in 1988.

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    #572 miurasv, Apr 24, 2020
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    250 GTO #4153GT.

    Pics copyright Palm Beach Cavallino Classic.

    There are many pics and videos of 4153 on the net but it's not often you get to see its details such as the engine, interior and boot.

    It's had quilted insulation added to the gearbox and drive tunnel.

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    #574 miurasv, Apr 29, 2020
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    I did not notice that the last 3 250 GTOs made, the 1964 S2 cars with the Pininfarina designed bodies, were not included in the link above, so they are in the link here.
     
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    250 GTO 3757GT Rear Spoiler and Rear Lights at Le Mans, 1962.

    3757GT is said to be the first GTO to have received the integrated rear spoiler. However, it initially had a bolted on spoiler and the rear lights were mounted on the raised rectangle, as pictured at Le Mans, 1962 below.
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