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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Bob Zambelli, Sep 11, 2007.

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  1. Aardy

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    I remember Bizzarrini was claiming the 250 GTO prototype was not built on 2053GT but on a 250 GT Boano s/n 0523GT as far I remember. May be they have found the 0523GT frame and now planning to rebirth the prototype, who knows ?
     
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    #1303 Aardy, Sep 18, 2024
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    oh I'm sorry I was confused, (happens all the time;-)) I was referring to the bodyshell shown in post 1302. That is at a show in Italy; Padova in the past (until 2022), Bologna last year or Milan most likely.

    I actually worked 6 months one kilometre from Campogalliano when I indexed Adolfo Orsi jr's Maserati archive in 2006 but never had a chance to visit B. Engineering. I visited everything else though:)!

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  7. Aardy

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    Great story ! Thanks ! ;)
     
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    IF you resort 2053GT you do get #0523GT, if so it would be easy enough to transpose the numbers but why would a 1956 250GT Boano chassis be used when a fair few 1960 250GT Short Wheelbase must have been lying around Maranello in '61?
     
  10. Marcel Massini

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    You may want to check what happened to 1791 GT........, notably between 16 January 1961 and 19 January 1962. And consult the four handwritten build sheet pages. Among others it clearly states "Carrozzeria sperimentale costruite secondo istruzione ing. Bizzarini" (which translates into: "Experimental bodywork constructed per instructions of engineer Bizzarini").

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  11. Aardy

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    And why would they use two-lug wheel nuts on the prototype when all SWBs have three ? ;)
     
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    1791GT so ? I wonder why Bizzarrini claimed everywhere it was a Boano ? :confused:
     
  13. Marcel Massini

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    See post 1310.
    Especially the time frame mentioned by me (and clearly stated on the handwritten factory pages).

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    OK. Thanks Marcel !
     
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    From Ferrari's website:


    "Early development of the new model was shrouded in secrecy, with Giotto Bizzarrini charged with developing a car to take on and beat the Jaguar E Type. In various interviews over the years he has said he was given an old 250 GT Boano chassis as a basis for the project. However, internal factory records show that he was provided with a 250 GT 'passo corto' (chassis 1791GT) on which to base the new car. On its first outing at Monza in September 1961, prior to the Italian Grand Prix, the 250 GTO earned the nickname 'Il Mostro' (The Monster), due to its rough-hewn and ill fitting prototype body. During test sessions, Stirling Moss drove the car to record times far better than those ever achieved by a 250 GT 'passo corto'"
     
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    There are several cases where the documented chassis number gives little or no idea on which chassis was really used. If chassis 1791GT was used for the prototipo, I would presume it died in the process and cannot help wondering why the foglios were kept. Also wondering which car did Vito Coco really race in 1962.
     
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    Yes, I was wondering the same thing for Vito Coco. May be another story of renumbering ?
     
  18. Marcel Massini

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    #1318 Marcel Massini, Sep 19, 2024
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    Following Giancarlo Baghetti's test at Modena 19 January 1962 1791 GT was rebuilt by Scaglietti as Berlinetta Competizione. Vittorio Coco of Catania started racing it in September 1962.
    See the factory paperwork.

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    Very interesting stuff. Thanks to both of you.
     
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    Which GTO has not been seen in a while? Years?
     
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    Giorgio Perfetti's RHD 3869 GT.
     
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    5111GT probably since 2006.

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