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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Bob Zambelli, Sep 11, 2007.

  1. Bob Zambelli

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    Lulu Wang - wife, as I recall, of Anthony Wang.
     
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  3. cheesey

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    4619 SA according to recent internet reports that went viral, Kun hee Lee, Chairman of Samsung corp , bought a stolen car, which shouldn't make him an owner... at least until the matter is cleared up... one would think that a transaction at that level of prevenance and value, the purchaser and legal team, one would assume wouldn't collectively have their heads where it don't shine :)
     
  4. Ed Niles

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    Irving Laidlaw; Jon Shirley; Yoshiho Matsuda; P. Paul Pappalardo; Jim Jaeger. Picky, picky. I think Carlos Hank R. owns Mexico's phone system, or something like that.
     
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    I think your thinking of Carlos Slim the Mexican telecom billionaire.
     
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    Got some of it, and updated the list

    #3223 - John Barrone, USA - unknown
    #3387 - Bernie Carl, USA - law (Harley Cluxton claimed ownership a year or so ago)
    #3413 - Greg Whitten, USA - ex. Microsoft
    #3445 - Chris Cox, USA - private investor
    #3451 - Lawrence Stroll, Switzerland - Fashion retail
    #3505 - Craig McCaw, USA (Purchased 2012 for cUS$35 mil.) - Telco
    #3527 - Irving Laidlaw, UK/ Monaco aka Baron Laidlaw - Conference organising
    #3589 - Engelbert Steiger Family, Switzerland/ USA - Materials/ Cloths
    #3607 - Rob Walton, USA - Retail
    #3647 - Jim McNeil Family, USA - Asset management ?
    #3705 - Ed Davis Family, USA - Unknown
    #3729 - Jon Shirley, USA - Microsoft
    #3757 - Nick Mason, UK - Music
    #3765 - James Jaegar, USA - Cincinati Microwave
    #3767 - Anthony Bamford, Uk - JCB Machinary
    #3769 - Anthony Wang, USA - Computers
    #3809 - HArtmut Ibing, Germany - Unknown
    #3851 - Fabrizio Violati, Italy - Bottled water
    #3869 - Giorgio Perfetti, Italy - Confectionary
    #3909 - John Mozart, USA - property
    #3943 - Charles Nearburg, USA - Oil
    #3987 - Ralph LAuren, USA - retail
    #4091 - Peter Sachs, USA - investments/ banking
    #4115 - Paul Vesty, Uk - Unknown
    #4153 - Christian Glaesal, Germany - electronic components
    #4219 - Brandon Wang, UK - unknown
    #4293 - Chip Connor, Hong Kong/ USA - Retail, investments
    #4381 - Freidheim Loh, Germany - Unknown
    #4399 - Anthony Bamford, UK - as above
    #4453 - Anthony Wang, USA - as above
    #4491 - Giuseppe Lucchini, Italy - steel
    #4561 - Carlo Vogele, Switzerland - clothing
    #4619 - Kun - Hu Lee, Korea - Samsung
    #4675 - Jean - Pierre Slavic, Switzerland - watches
    #4713 - Lulu Wang, USA - see Anthony Wang
    #4725 - for sale ??
    #4757 - Tom Price, USA - Auto sales
    #5095 - Carlos Hank Rohn, Mexico - Telco
    #5111 - Torrota Collection, Switzerland - Unknown
    #5571 - Bruce McCaw, USA - telco
    #5573 - Pierre Bardinon, France - Fur
    #5575 - Rob Walton, USA - Retail
     
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  8. Ed Niles

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    Bob Zambelli, in a PM, brought up the name of Carle Conway, which reminded me of another of my tales. Back in the 60's, one drove whatever one owned. There was no such thing as a garage queen; they were just used Ferraris. In SoCal we has a very active club, with plenty of socializing. Dan Ward was one of our most active members. It happened that he had 5575, the last GTO. Now I was doing a lot of trading, and always on the lookout for a "deal", so when people started getting interested in GTO's, I repeatedly asked Dan if he would consider selling. The answer was always a firm "no". So when Carle Conway (a true gentleman with whom I was acquainted) called to ask if Dan would consider selling, I was so tired of asking that I responded, "No, but here's his number if you want to try". Well, of course they ended up making a deal, without your chronicler in the middle! Oh well, win some and lose some. The moral is never put your hustle down. FYI, the price was probably around $10,000, but no longer sure.
     
  9. miurasv

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    Thanks for sharing another of your interesting stories, Ed. I wonder what the price was this year when it changed hands?

    Barchetta info on 250 GTO/64 5575: http://www.barchetta.cc/english/all.ferraris/detail/5575gt.250gto.htm
     
  10. kare

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    Any idea what year this might have been - even roughly? My random notes say Ward had it in 1966, and by 1976 it was with Conway, so sometime in between, most likely...
     
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    according to barchetta.cc 3451 has been restored in 2012 to its original Targa Florio colors. I assume they mean the marroon with the white roof. Can anyone confirm? Perhaps any pics avaliable?
     
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    #136 El Wayne, Feb 24, 2013
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    I don't have recent images, but I do have a question about this car at the TF in '62. Does anyone have a color image that clearly shows that the dark color was maroon and not black?
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    Thanks, but no. Perhaps I need to have my vision checked.
     
  17. miurasv

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    Me too. It looks black and well used to me.
     
  18. miurasv

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    Where have I seen that licence plate with L4 at the end? We were discussing it recently I'm sure.
     
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    Thanks, Wayne. I knew you'd know. :)

    Talking of 3987GT. I saw this today:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgCtMIrBa-w[/ame]
     
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  23. cheesey

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    noticed the shortage of carb intakes, it maybe fiberglass replica as well
     
  24. Jobo_1

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    Hello,
    can anybody post photos of the correct chassis-, engine-, internal-engine-, gearbox- and differential-no stamping for the GTO?

    Thx in advance

    JoBo
     
  25. 4rePhill

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    According to the Driver & Vehicle Licensing Agency (UK):

    The vehicle details for 80 WS are:
    Date of Liability 01 06 2013
    Date of First Registration 14 06 2012
    Year of Manufacture 1962
    Cylinder Capacity (cc) 5700cc
    CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
    Fuel Type PETROL
    Export Marker N
    Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
    Vehicle Colour RED
    Vehicle Type Approval Not Available

    A 5.7 litre 250 GTO?
    (it is listed as under the "Ferrari" section)


    Another Database in the UK also has it recorded as being FERRARI 250 GTO
     
  26. Miltonian

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    #150 Miltonian, Mar 22, 2013
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    Quote from the April 2013 issue of "Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car":

    "The Jaguar (XK-SS) has superior Dunlop disc brakes front and rear, unlike the GTO's four-wheel drum setup..."

    And yes, they are referring to the Ferrari 250GTO, not the Pontiac GTO.
     

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