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    The insurance adjuster agreed to pay me the price for a replica GTO spoiler and grille from Italian Design (Butch Hooper?) and a few hundred for mounting and painting. Ok. Instead I put an order for this money at Superformance and order new suspension bushes, their uprated springs, the quick steering rack and some small stuff.
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    I wasn't satisfied with the color my 308 had, Porsche Indisch Rot that I found to bright, so I decided for a full respray and some more work. I started to make a GTO style rear lid.
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    Bert, this is way to cool.

    Keep up the great work!
     
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    Not a fan of the procedure but your work is very impressive. Nice job.

    Now use your skills to clean up that dirty engine bay.
     
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    An order from Summit USA came in. Supertrapps (I got the idea from "PAD") and magnaflows. PAD has only the Supertrapps but that seemed a little loud. I now have a full dual system that passes the "pingpongball test", the ball could go through the exhaust. I thought about hooking up the ignition and fuelsystem to test but everything was dirty including timingbelts so I better didn't. Am curious though!
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    You are really something. I love your job. Thanks for sharing the pictures.
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    Time for thinking. While looking at my dirty engine, and all the removed dirty old ignition and Bosch Kjet stuff, I thought, am I going to put that back in, all these wires and plumbing hanging loose. I decided to go EFI and after researching ordered a Mega Squirt II. This will be combined with Ford EDIS 8 distributerless ignition, it needs a trigger wheel installed. EDIS 8 module and wheel sourced from the USA (we don't have V8 Fords on the wrecking yards) the ignition modules and spark plug cable plugs I scored locally from 4 cylinder Fords. The sensor is mounted on the front valve belt cover with room for adjustment.
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    I was thinking, with the Bosch fuel distributer out of the way, I can plan in a supercharger there for the future. A used Eaton M90 (like MarkE had on his first setup) cost only a few hundred. Then I looked further and inquired to the Lysholm company for dealers or importers, they didn't had any and didn't want to sell me one directly. Then I saw an ebay ad for a new unused Mercedes SL55 AMG supercharger for a price a bit less then the Lysholm, Opcon or other screwtype superchargers. After 1 day considering I bought it...
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    This is so awesome. MORE MORE MORE
     
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    I forgot, above pics, the AMG charger has internal gearing, 46x34. I found some Ford 6 groove pulley and belt to test fit, it is 13 cm and with that I have a final drive of 2:1 so the thing will spin 14000 rpm at 7000 engine rpm and the other rotor will spin even >23000 rpm. This last number was mentioned in some Mercedes documentation for the 55AMG, with mention of kg air/hour and I calculated the Kompressor must be a 2 ltr unit. But, I have seen 3 types, a smaller one for the 32AMG, mine that is longer by 2 "squares" (the grid on top of the blower) and I saw a picture of mine on a G class 55AMG, but the SL 55AMG has a blower that is yet 1 square longer. And then there is the SLR mcLaren that has also this supercharger (and up to 700 HP). Documentation on the web is not found, I only found out the unit is made by IHI Japan. So, I'm still figuring out what I have and what pulley to use, I will start conservative. My youngest brother works at a place that sells industrial drives so I asked him to see what proper 8 groove pulleys and belts they have, the AMG has the 8 groove "8PK" type.
     
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    The AMG (I will call the Kompressor AMG from now on, shortest) had this Merc specific side air channels, output is on the bottom, then it goes through watercooled intercoolers through the channels cast to the AMG (in the original setup). I cut of the Merc specific stuff, ha. Also it had these four strange outlets on the drive side. But that seemed to be only waterchannels for the intercoolers, was afraid for a monent the AMG needs it's oil from the engine system. Of course I spilled the prefilled oil when I opened up the thing. I used these water channels to make mounts, cut a thread in them with a sliced bolt.
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    Well, this shiny new AMG, new intercoolers, and all the stuff from my engine removed, I decided I might just as well remove the engine for a good cleaning, painting and so on. Also I realized I have the original exhaust valves (sodium) and cast pistons. They were good enough for years to come if I just drove the thing, but for performance I need better. So the heads will come of and I will see what needs to be done. ($$$)
    Engine room is cleaned by now (forgot to take pics), made a new rear alu wall.
    You can see the new position of the rear suspension tops relative to the old ones.
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    Made strong mounts for the AMG, yes it looks a hack job but strong it is and once evertything is painted black and in the car it looks better, also then the vertical struts won't be visible. The idler for the belt is just a try, it will need to be stronger with a wider pulley.
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