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  1. Sire Bruno de Losckley

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    1967: pics "l'Automobile" French magazine

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  2. alebart3

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    Wow!!!Wonderfull pics, thanks in 1967 I was 20 years old!
    Alessandro
     
  3. Ed Niles

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    #4878 Ed Niles, Jul 20, 2009
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  4. crinoid

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    Ed, all your pics are great. How about more of that last car.
     
  5. 246tasman

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    But those haircuts & sideburns sure seem a long time back........
     
  6. dretceterini

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    #4881 dretceterini, Jul 21, 2009
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    Is the red and black Vignale 212 3 posts up the car now owned by Ron Tonkin? STUNNING car!!!!!
     
  7. trashidelek!

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    Regarding the photo of the KLM plane with various personalities in front of it, here is Doug Nye’s apparently conclusive post taken from TNF:

    My friends Franco Lombardi and Antoine Prunet are jointly completing what will - from the manuscripts I have read so far - be the definitive book on the 4-cyl and in-line 6-cyl Ferraris. I have just drawn Franco's attention to this picture, and here's the typically definitive response:

    It is shot in Lisbon on October 29th 1957. From Milan to Amsterdam and then to Lisbon on the way to Caracas for the Venezuela GP. A bunch of Maserati and Ferrari friends going to fight for the final race. From left: Mino Amorotti, Bruno Solmi, Adelmo Marchetti, Romolo Tavoni, Edgardo Selingardi, Giorgio Scarlatti, Nello Ugolini, Mike Hawthorn, Erio Fossati, Gaetano Florini, Mr. Ray 'Scruffy' Martin (the Shell representative), the KLM representative in Lisbon. On the stair: Carlo Amadessi, a Maserati mechanic still to be identified (I am working on this...), Emer Vecchi and Jean Behra. Some of the guys there had already changed their clothes in view of the Venezuelan climate.
     
  8. F1tommy

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    #4883 F1tommy, Jul 21, 2009
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    Amazing work!! What threw alot of people off was the missing Ferrari team drivers.

    Can't wait for the 4-6 cyl book.

    Tom Tanner/Ferrari Expo 2010-Chicago
     
  9. wbaeumer

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    ...the Maserati mechanic is Negri.

    Ciao!
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  10. Ed Niles

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  11. crinoid

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    Ed, thanks so much. The LM is one of my all time favorite Ferrari's. What an experience that must be to drive this amazing and beautiful beast.
     
  12. Jeff Kennedy

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    It was that nice when I was driving it.

    Epstein had changed the steering wheel to one from a Trans Am. For driving this was actually nice since it was a smaller diamater and had a thick, leather covered rim. Bob also ran BF Goodrich TA radials instead of the Dunlops.

    Some interesting tidbits. The restoration was by Griswold; saw the actual bill of $46,000. The restoration was for Fred Knoop who was the owner/exhibitor at Pebble Beach as shown in the photos. He sold it to Kerry Payne who in turn sold it to Bob Epstein. The license plates stayed with the car. Bob never re-registered the car because California does the license fees based upon value. The plates had the car at the fully depreciated value so the absolute minimum $ as if 5909 was some old piece of junk. As Bob said even if he lied through his teeth about what he paid it was still going to mean an expensive license fee. So to have a current year registration sticker on the plate he used the one from his Morris Minor woody wagon (a stunning restoration on a huh? car).

    I got pulled over for excessive noise one evening and while the CHP was running license and registration I stood in front of the registration sticker. By that point I had already found out that mis-application of a registration sticker was a serious offense. The cop had only a slight sense of humor about the windshield wiper not being installed when I pulled them out of the well in the drivers door. As I was putting them back he asked if I wasn't going to install them; no it wasn't raining. Didn't bother to tell him that the wipers had quit working anyway.

    Epstein then sold the car on to Obrist. I had heard $120 to $140 area. Bob had paid $70K as confirmed by him to me.

    Jeff
     
  13. superleggera

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    #4889 superleggera, Jul 23, 2009
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    1954 Carrera Pan Americana -- 0286AM w/Phil Hill and Richie Ginther -- someone sent me the picture today and photographer unknown. Just trying to identify if anyone knows who took it or what part of the course? (quite a bit crowd in the background)
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  14. johnei

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    Maybe Joe Smith, a photographer of the period, who sold his collection to Tony Adriaensens of Corsa Research in Antwerp, Belgium about 10 years ago...
     
  16. Ed Niles

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    #4893 Bryanp, Jul 24, 2009
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    ok, go ahead and shoot me for posting this "not old" photograph, but I had to do a now-and-then w/ Ed's pic of Dick Merritt at a Ferrari gathering. Here is one from 42 years later.

    Dick, me, Kendall Merritt, don't know and Patrique du Faucompre
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  20. readplays

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    What is the first picture? An Argo chassis (or something) that would bear a 308 motor?
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  21. readplays

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    2nd and 3rd photos appear to be the 312 PB #0892 built-up replica (that barchetta says was later dismantled circa 2001).

    Best,
    Dave
     
  22. Llenroc

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    #4898 Llenroc, Jul 27, 2009
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    Sorry Dave, meant to post that separate and I think you are correct. I have several pics of the engine for that car also which is a 308 .
     
  23. Llenroc

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    #4899 Llenroc, Jul 27, 2009
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    Another rather poor quality photo. I thought the color was interesting supposedly factory color, also posted because of the flairs again supposedly a factory add. I do remember it having very wide wheels(one of the rears is next to the car) I can't find the finished photos of the car. This car belonged to John Robertson(Bigfork, MT)dec. when this was taken 1990 or so.
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  24. readplays

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    Thanks for the great photos!

    Best,
    Dave
     

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