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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Bertocchi, Jan 14, 2006.

  1. omd78

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    What year?

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  2. Manel Baró

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    First published in GB, 1957 by Hamish Hamilton Ltd.
     
  3. ronnieb

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    The photo is not lit or exposed very well. The car is probably yellow and the light on the car is very bright so all you see is reflected light from above. If you look along the side of the car you can see individual reflections and areas where no light is shining.
     
  4. omd78

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    Thanks. What I was trying to discover is when the picture was taken. Probably at the Ferrari factory in Maranello.

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  5. Bryanp

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    #9331 Bryanp, Dec 9, 2015
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    The last week of May, 1955; 0564(0424)MD in French Racing Blue - either at the Factory, or at the Modena Autoaerodrome for testing. One coat of nitrocellulose, not polished, wet-sanded or compounded. So it was shiny, at least initially, with runs, orange peel and the like.
     
  6. Admiral Goodwrench

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    Dear John,

    I think that it is a lighting issue. Please see the attached photo from the RM/Sothesby site of the car in French Racing Blue at the beginning of the 1955 Liege-Rome-Liege rally.

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  7. BIRA

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    I don't think it is the beginning i.e. Belgium because there is a sign in Italian on the wall . And from the Maurice Louche pictures we know the car went through the Dolomites ,even if I don't know when they were forced to stop with engine problems. Interesting to notice the car had a double headrest, obviously made for the owner/ driver as Scaglietti never manufactured to my knowledge such rear headrest. But the visual effect is not bad! I looked at it and I think it could be replicated just with the boot lid shaped as such without affecting the body itself...
     
  8. Admiral Goodwrench

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    Dear Pierre,

    Agree on both counts.

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  9. PSk

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    Guys we know they were never as shiny as they are now. Part of the reason we know this is because of the type of paint that was available back then.

    We also know that the condition of the bodywork or general cleanliness of the cars were not as important as it's performance ... from an ex-Alfa works driver who actually cleaned a GTA himself feeling sorry for it, ie: Harvey Bailey.

    They were loved by the mechanics as race cars, not show ponies.

    This hyper cleanliness and amazing visual presentation is a modern thing that didn't start until the late 80's-ish ... even the 70's F1 pre race work was completed on the floor like a shop mechanic would. Witness the Le Mans Ferrari workshop photos we have seen in this thread.
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  10. merstheman

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    Should be Forli 1947 with Tazio Nuvolari in #02C.
     
  12. merstheman

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    Thanks!!!!
     
  13. tongascrew

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    Nuvolari's health had deteriorated considerably during the war years particularly his lungs.The driving skills though were still there i.e. the 1948 Mille Miglia.. It has always been said that his health problems came from too many fumes from the race cars and too much smoking of the strong unfiltered cigarettes of the day. During his last years he often drove with a mask over his mouth and nose which can be seen in this photo and may others of the day. Many believe him to be the greatest to ever have driven a racing car. Read more and you may also. tonga's crew.
     
  14. Mark Shannon

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    #9340 Mark Shannon, Dec 10, 2015
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    Dear Paul

    It helped me to see the full photographs and to look at the background. I am pretty sure this is Castle Combe. #3729 with Portman and #3869 with Fry. They did both race their respective GTO's at Combe in 1964 but I do not have programmes to verify the race numbers or meeting.

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  15. merstheman

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    I worship Nuvolari, but I am a lot more familiar with his exploits as a younger man. The mask & goggle placement made it hard for me to recognize him.
     
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    Mask over Nuvolari's mouth to avoid him coughing & spitting blood.
     
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    #0682MDTR ?
     
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    1-juin-1958 coppa della Consuma 9em 4em class Gaetano Starrabba/Prince di Giardinelli 500 TRC 0682MDTR

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  20. 275gtb6c

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    Very nice information! We take this pass many times each year and is a beautiful pass. When driving there I wonder how the route of this hillclimb was? From Firenze or from Stia. Or even another route?
    Very nice part of Italy!

    Ciao
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    0682MDTR with Gaetano Starrabba at the wheel.
     
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  23. Jurassik

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    There is a possibility that this 0830 that is known only that he crashed in testing at Monza, May 25, 1965, and the driver was killed in the fire Bruno Deserti

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