You may want to try 0574 MD. Here's the chassis stamping of 0574 MD which has been overstamped into 0424 MD. The "5" and the "7" are clearly visible underneath. Meanwhile engine 0574 MD is in 0188. Marcel Massini Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Correct. Please let me rephrase my question: is the 0574 MD as raced by Siro Sbraci the same Mondial as later restamped to 0424 MD or is it a newly built 0574 MD after restamping the original 0574 MD?
See photo #1 in post 11727. The 5 (under the 4) and the 7 (under the 2) are very clearly visible. There is no 6 underneath. Marcel Massini
Marcel, post #11735 was an explanation to Aardy about the relation to 0564 MD in this discussion, not meant to cast any doubt on photo #1 in post 11727. That pic shows very clearly that it was 0574 MD that was restamped (and that Barchetta completely messed up several chassis histories).
So what the heck you wanna really discuss here when everything is very clear already? Yes, that website is inaccurate but that is no news whatsoever. MM
OK, let's start again........... Here's the first and real and original 0424 MD, a Pinin Farina Spider, including the plates MO 33757 and the registration document that confirms it all. Officially sold new to S.A.I.P.A. S.r.l., in Modena, a company specifically set up to "rent" cars to certain French drivers who preferred to avoid paying taxes. The question is: WHERE is this particular car today (no matter which chassis number it wears now)? Marcel Massini Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
The following is just speculation from my side: Last entry in my database for 0424 MD is the "Critérium Neige et Glace" in February 1955. The first occurence (AFAIK!) of 0574 MD restamped as 0424 MD, is the "5° Les Douze Heures d’Hyères - 25° Grand Prix des Frontières" in May 1955. This suggests a time period between February and May of 1955 for the restamping. The most logical thing would be a chassis number swap between 0424 MD and 0574 MD (but there have been swaps between more than 2 cars), that is a renumbering of 0424 MD into 0574 MD. The first occurence (again, AFAIK) of "0574 MD" might be the "2° Conchiglia d'Oro Shell" in June 1955 (Harry Schell), which would be possible after a swap in between February and May. But then again, Ferrari chassis numbering and logic As stated, only my speculation After 1956 I have no entries for "0574 MD".
That is what Barchetta claims - but they have missed the fact that it was 0574 MD instead of 0564 MD that was renumbered into 0424 MD.
Image Unavailable, Please Login 0564/MD really looks to 12 Hours of Hyères Dupont’s Scaglietti Spyder...
Guys: PHOTOS PHOTOS PHOTOS is all that you need. Without that you shouldn't even start posting. You can figure out this chaos/mess only with photos (period ones, not modern ones) and period dox. Marcel Massini
I fully agree. Unfortunately I don't have such a photo collection myself, neither do I have access to period documents. FChatters who do, please step up! (one of those moments Boudewijn is sorely missed )
Image Unavailable, Please Login Then it’s not only barchetta.cc which is wrong about 0564/MD but also the owner, the restorer... Or do you mean the car identified since many years as 0564/MD is in fact the real 0574/MD ??
Cyril: Tell me where today is the car in photo 1 of post 11742? Here it is again. Pinin Farina Spider. The original and first and authentic 0424 MD at the Tour de France Automobile 3 September 1954. What happened with it? Thanks. Marcel Massini Image Unavailable, Please Login
