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Discussion in '348/355' started by ceraldesign, Nov 9, 2006.

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  1. angelis

    angelis F1 Veteran
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    How much power have you got now?

    What are you going to use the car for? Trackdays or just street driving?

    Are you looking for faster acceleration or higher top speed?

    Are you considering other mods like brake upgrades & suspension?
     
  2. gothspeed

    gothspeed F1 World Champ

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    Lightening the car helps......
     
  3. Dr.T348

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    Good point. If you are looking for off-the-line power, turbo may not be the way to go. Supercharger will give you much more lower end torque.

    If it's track time, the 348 does ok on power. It would be easier and cheaper to set the car up right for the track with a few suspension mods and hard bushings. You might notice a significant reduction in track times. The timing can be advanced to challenge/euro specs to give slight more high end hp. Straight pipes, challenge exhaust, and air filter will help a little. Other things like challenge brake ducts, racing brake pads, challenge wheels will help on the track. Lighten up with challenge bumpers front and rear.

    You have to remember the 348 is a sports car not a muscle car.
     
  4. BT

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  5. gothspeed

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    Has anyone tried that? I hear it draws some serious amperage, of which our cars are in short supply.
     
  6. MaleficVTwin

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    They aren't cheap, and they cause more of a restriction than anything else. A better use for the money would be placing it on the back of your toilet in case you run out of TP.
     
  7. mk e

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    It's a ridiculous thing that does nothing.

    They can sell them because most people don’t realize just how much power a turbo or supercharger consume. The SC on my 308 is using 60-80hp. if I recall correctly, 1hp=.7kw, so 42-56kw. At 12 volts, that is about 4000 amps, good luck getting that out of the alternator :)
     
  8. BT

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    Uh, it was a joke. Like any of those silly vortex is the source of the power things. I don't even know how this turbonator is supposed to work. It is electric forced induction? I thought it just swirled the intake mixture to create some magical mixture.
    BT
     
  9. gothspeed

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    Well there was certainly humor in it, which I purposely of overlooked :). Here is what I thought it was though:

    http://www.electricsupercharger.com/
     
  10. goyal99

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    I'm not suggesting to do a Norwood TT conversion....Why would you want to do something like that for $35K+ anyway when you can upgrade to a F355 for that kind of money??

    The point is to do a TTurbo conversion for under $10K - a low boost, intercooled, no engine, no-ECU mods conversion....It can certainly be done for under $10K but obviously NOT at Norwood.

    With a low boost TT conversion it's possible to gain 100HP and not put major stress on the engine....The NOPI crowd does it all the time to their Jap cars with bolt-on kits and little cash...No need to reinvent the wheel on bolt-on Turbo installations...It a true-and-tried method for the quickest HP gains there is...

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  11. gothspeed

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    True, it can be done using the import tuner moethods. I don't know if the existing fuel injectors or metering system can suport 100hp but 50hp I think would be very do-able. Boost sensitive fuel regulator and run 2-4 psi on a 355......:D
     
  12. BT

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    How about installing an NSX motor. They are much more reliable too.... Just ask any 'banker'....
    :D :D :D
    BT
     
  13. PAP 348

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    TWIN TURBO!! :D:D
     
  14. zakeen

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    Yes, these systems cost heaps due to the word Ferrari is involved! Doing a same system like the jap cars I dont think would be a problem on the car either. Plus Im sure the Jap Turbo guys would have far more expeirnce then anyone else, as they have done there fair share of turbo charging.

    While the name Norwood might sound better, I dont think any system will increase the value of your ferrari, so you might as well go for a small jap setup for an extra 100-200HP gain.

    I converted my toyota gt4 to 520HP for less then $AUS12,000 which included all the internals. Its possible for 800HP but ran at a nice 520HP to be on the safe side. There is no reason why I cant use all the parts(excluding the internals) on my 348! Aftermarket ECU,Turbo, intercooler, custom pluming etc......

    Most of these Jap cars use standard intervals. Now dont tell me that standard Jap cars are built stronger then ferrari's internals.
     
  15. gothspeed

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    Good point!!! The F-car internals should handle an extra 100hp easy :D
     
  16. mk e

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    The internals are good. I've got a stock 308 at 22 psi and there is a stock stock 355 in Oz at 12 or 15 I think. No worries there.

    The money comes in that there aren't enough people doing ferrari conversions to make it worth tooling the parts. hat means all the conversions are custom everything, and that costs money. Also, ferraris are 8 and 12 cylinder, not 4 and non or the modern ferraris have distributors. That limits the ECUs to choose from...at least $2k+ (US) for that alone. It's a ferrari, so nothing but a ball bearing turbo...$2k+ again...or we need 2, $4k+. Another $2k+ for the custom made intercoolers. Custom headers $3k+. Custom plumbing, I don't know $2k seems cheap. That ECU need to be installed, wired, tuned...it just all costs a lot of money to get right.
     
  17. PAP 348

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  18. davey_jones

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    EASY THERE PAP!!! You're gonna blow a gasket!
     
  19. plugzit

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    Let's see a picture of the twins!!!!!
     
  20. saleenfan

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    Twin turbo setups can be run really really simply if you have a freind with a mandral(SP) bender, a freind of mine made his own twin kit for his V6 mustang and now the thing runs sub 11 sec quarter miles. He running 15ish psi and stock internals with only fuel system upgrades and hes putting out about 500hp at the rear wheels. The mustang only makes 195 stock so hes made quite a healthy upgrade, and now he can beat ZO6's and vipers its a fun ride. And he made it for about 5 grand. but then again thats a mustang not a Ferrari :)
     
  21. MaleficVTwin

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    I knew you were kidding. So was I with my "cash as TP" remark. :D
     

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