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MotorSport Magazine France: Car of the year

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  1. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    This silliness has been debunked time and again.
     
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  2. LVP488

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    Personnally (and I passed on a Pista allocation) I would not challenge their result.
    The Pista is the best performing, but it uses the best available tyres to be it (so that its "intrinsic" merits are somewhat limited) and it comes at an outrageous selling price.
    I still think that if money is no object, the Pista is the best; but although buying any of these cars is not sensible at all, I still have some consideration for the value for money - that's why I did not order one.
    I will compete in the Caterham Academy next year - to me it'll be be more fun for a fraction of the price (and I still keep my 488 GTB for the Ferrari experience).
     
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  3. mva

    mva Karting

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    Any other results for pista ? (Acceleration..)
     
  4. Thelovelyrock18

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  5. dustman

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    LOL

    I've read those supposed "facts".
     
  6. 458-Italia

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  7. Luque

    Luque Formula Junior

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    Ferrari 488 Pista : lap time at Magny Cours GP
    1:44'' 90 (Sport Cup 2R)
     
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  8. 458-Italia

    458-Italia Formula 3

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    Already posted yesterday page 3 ;);)
     
  9. xskier

    xskier Formula Junior

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    Interesting. Sportauto issue 01/19 has handling car of the year GT3 Rs
    On same cup R tyre as Pista, but faster on track, Anneau du rhin despite of 200ps down compared to pista.
    Mechanial track is just better on the porsche GT3 Rs.

    I think the 991.2 Gt3 Rs has even better handling than the gt2 Rs witch i track often. The new 3 Rs is sharper/precised on steering, has in my view better adapted suspension than the 2 Rs, chassi feels more adapted than in the 2 Rs.

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  10. Luque

    Luque Formula Junior

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    Sorry, my bad
     
  11. BG23

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    This looks like a pretty amazing review! Does anyone know if they do an English translation?
     
  12. Dilusha

    Dilusha Formula Junior

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    Unfortunately no, but you can use google translate like me. :p
     
  13. 458-Italia

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  14. anishka

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    Full Name:
    Larry
     
  15. 458-Italia

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  16. SoCal to az

    SoCal to az F1 World Champ
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    Question: the Pista is the only one that used Cup R tires in the video above. To the track junkies - how much of a difference does that make if any?
     
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  17. 458-Italia

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    on the Magny-Cours track, we can estimate the gain in performance at least a second to the lap with the pilorsportcupR compared to pilotsportcup2
    the 720S was equipped with Pirelli Trofeo R
     
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  18. SoCal to az

    SoCal to az F1 World Champ
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    So essentially a dead heat 3 way between performante, pista and 720.
     
  19. Caeruleus11

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    This is very unscientific, but I find it interesting none the less... Every time someone posts up a video or report of a car on one level more sticky tires I calculate the %∆ from the one level less sticky tire. I've come to find the %∆ is 1-3%. I think you would have to perform the same calculation for the McLaren since it is also on the next level stickier Pirelli tire- perhaps not quite as sticky as those Cup2R but extremely sticky as well. Bottom line seems the Pista takes the fight very well to all comers- which is just what we want! The real determining factor will be the driver.
     
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  20. SoCal to az

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    I’m just clueless when it comes to tracking and tires. The reason I asked was the graphic specifically stated the pista had the cup r tires. Didn’t quite know the significance of that.
     
  21. IPO1

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    Lost me at France...
     
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  22. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    The Trofeo R is probably stickier than the Cup 2 R.
     
  23. Gh21631

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    It is not and the Trofeo I believe is an older version. Regardless they are all very close. Funny thing is that this is the civilian version of the 720 and it takes a $500k car from Ferrari to compete. The Huracan is almost a 5 year old platform and does darn well.
     

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