MS vs Hamilton in Monza *** SPOILER***

+1 This is PR crap IMO. If Michael was going to get hit with a penalty, we ALL know from several incidents with several drivers they would have done it immediately or following the race. Michael was hit with a stop and go for a crap reason earlier in the year and everyone whined a complained about it being too harsh, because it was. If anything, this further proves the stewards are indeed very harsh scrutineers and punish immediately. This stuff after the fact is brought on by Michael critics and Mclaren lovers.

That being said, I feel bad for Mclaren. They definitely had the quickest race pace

 

The stewards deemed that Michael did nothing wrong so who are we to argue?

 

All this is after-the-fact stuff and matters none. If they wanted to, they could still hit him with the penalty but that will not happen. The fans overwhelmingly don't believe he needs a penalty. The fans also overwhelmingly believed the last stop and go penalty under wet conditions was deemed incredibly harsh, which it very much was. So this is not a debate amongst F1 fans, that much is clear. This is a debate whether or not to bastardize Schu which makes various websites happy because good Schu stories bring clicks and debate etc. For those of you in this crowd, let's call this even for his completely bogus stop and go earlier in the season. For the rest of us in the majority, it's a dead issue unless a penalty comes.......which it won't.

 

Are you implying this is something they didn't know about Michael Schumacher already? lol

I guarantee the drivers have a completely different perspective on this than those who believe Michael should have been penalized do.

 

Lewis passed because of a botched gearchange by Michael not because of what Ross told him on the radio.

 

was going to say that, yes.

 

Tif12 you should read my posts. Your hatred of ms has blinded you.

 

No the big tittys blinded him the lucky bugger

 

I'm talking about Daly.

 

Wow...what fantastic perfection driving by both of them. And real sportsmanship by MS at the end too.

 

That's what I like to read.....THE FACTS!! there should be more of that around here

 

Allegedly.

I doubt a modern F1 driver could really make a botched gear-change with the digital gearboxes they all have these days. They only really use the clutch when doing a dead standstill start and the changes are as easy as pulling a single paddle, so it's difficult to see how anyone could possibly screw that up, let alone a professional driver, and certainly not the greatest Formula 1 driver of all time. I think it was determined in the Mercedes pits that a penalty was definitely on the way unless Lewis got by - and soon - so he was let by deliberately, and a "botched gear-change" was the reason they decided to publicly release.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

It's just Tifo12 anti MS bashing...don't worry about it.


We don't REALLY know how fast Seb was...don't forget he had pole by a huge margin.

 

You really read far too much between the lines. First, when did poor old Mark get CLOSE enough to see what was going on between MS and LH? lol...poor guy. Was he even on the same lap? REGARDLESS......you keep quoting Daly, whose opinion mattered on the day (but not now, mind you) and not even HE says MS broke the rules. Just that he was driving too aggressively. When you read, you have to comprehend! Now Brawn says Whiting told him to tell MS to leave room for LH at Ascari......if the stewards weren't watching, how would he have known to tell Brawn that? It's just logic, my good chap. Brundle and Coulthard both say he shouldn't have been penalised, but he was pushing too far. That fits with what Brawn says.

Apparently some of us are more expert than them

NO.....he did NOT say that, or at least, not in the article you posted. It's just your usual anti MS wishful thinking.

Isn't it more fun when you speak factually?

Tall poppy syndrome I think. Seriously.......they were on prime time....every camera and everybody was watching MS and LH...lap after lap...and you seriously believe the stewards missed it? lol..come on..really?

Well, that's what Brawn says..........he also said MS momentarily hit the limiter. I find it a bit hard to believe...he's not quite an amateur!

Tif12 has big titts? Maybe he should post a photo so we finally get to see something that might be interesting.

Sorrty Tif12...nothing personal, but you're really clutching at straws with this MS stuff.

 

oh snap!

 

Sorry I disagree, it is possible to botch a gearchange, Ross stated that Michael was distracted by a radio message and changed into a higher gear too soon thus losing acceleration and that is what allowed Lewis to pass.

 

Please tell Me you're not buying that cover story!.

Schumacher had his defensive driving wings clipped by Charlie whiting via a "coded" message from Ross Brawn that was about as subtle as the infamous:"ALONSO IS FASTER THAN YOU!" message. Basically he was told: "Michael, you cannot defend like this any more, let Hamilton go or you're going to get a penalty!".

As for:

Schumacher is renowned for his ability to drive the car flat out using only 80% of his mental ability when just about every other driver is using 100% to do the same (I'd say Hamilton is at @ 90% of his mental ability).

Even during wheel to wheel battles he is well known for enquiring such things as: what tyres are everyone else on; what is the weather forecast for the next 20 minutes, what was Vettels last lap time?; who won the 1973 Eurovision song contest?* (OK, I may have made this one up!), so to it's a little bit hard to believe that he changed up a gear too early because he was distracted by a radio message!.





(* It was Anne-Marie David for Luxembourg with: Tu te reconnaîtras)

 

Actually yes I think it was plausible, he does make the rare mistake

 

Gotta say I'm really struggling with it!

(Usually when he makes mistakes he tends to run into people! )