My '89 Spyder

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  1. 67bmer

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    #1 67bmer, Oct 23, 2016
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    I wanted to clean up my spyder last weekend and discovered my clutch master cylinder was leaking!

    ruined my floor mats. hoping the carpet can be saved. the sound deadening material is a mess! the brake fluid got between it and the floor boards and dissolved the materials, glue and paint. The only option was to keep cutting it out until you get it all - like flesh eating bacteria...

    There seems to be foam + plastic glued to the floor boards, then foam padding with a layer of paint, carpet, floor mats.

    Is there any replacement for these materials?

    I think i will de-rust and paint it with some Por paint. Either leave it as is or try to replace the material if its available.

    I am a big fan of leatherique conditioning and pristine clean. Other than the seat bottoms and back is any of the interior actually leather? The pristine clean does a really great job of cleaning the stitching.
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    #2 67bmer, Oct 26, 2016
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    New parts arrived from Lenny at AutoItalia this week.

    I installed new hood shocks last night.
    top - new from Lenny @ AutoItalia
    middle - original
    bottom - one a mechanic installed years ago

    as you can see, the new/original are longer so the hood opens much more now, to about 75deg instead of 45deg. Much easier access. They are also made in the USA! The markings are different, but otherwise are essentially identical. I also got a new hood foam panel.

    Ironically, I must have met Lenny at a concourse Italiano years ago, I found his business card in my desk over the weekend.

    I will probably re-build the brake master as well.

    And replace timing belt over the holidays. Its been about 20 years since I last replaced it.
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    It's all leather and alcantara. Go slow with the cleaner though. Test small inconspicuous spots. Have a view of the Biturbozentrum Yahoo Groups site. You'll get lots of help there too.

    Oh and don't drive the car at all till you replace the timing belt and all the associated bearings and bushings in the tensioner.
     
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    #4 67bmer, Oct 29, 2016
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    It was a spectacular fall day and I had a little time to get my hood cleaned up. I wanted to get the old foam off and cleaned up before I start the clutch master and timing belt. It probably needs valves adjusted, I don't know if they have ever been done before. I'll try and get it really cleaned up as I disassemble and have better access. Would like to do a car show or two next year.

    Like anything, you can get it 70%-80% there with about 25% of time and then to finish takes 75% of your time...

    The hood actually looks good, I had a really bad sun angle.
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    Originally the heads were supposed to be re-torqued after the first 1,000 miles. That was mandatory and free at the time. It's a big job because it means spitting open the cambox which you'll be doing when you adjust the valves. Most people never bothered with the 1,000 mile service and that's one reason why you see so many head gasket failures years later with these cars. You can learn how to do the valve adjustment yourself if your mechanically inclined otherwise find someone to help. It's a bit fussy and irksome during assembly/disassembly as it's easy to drop a shim into the crankcase if you're not careful.

    So when you check and adjust the valve clearances be sure to re-torque the heads as well.
    Were it me ... even if they require no adjustment I'd split the camboxes and re-torque the heads.

    The engine compartment sparkles nicely! But that won't mean squat if your 20 year old cambelt/tensioner were to poop on your parade. That's an engine out and heads rebuild deal.

    Best of luck with your project as these are exotic and fun little cars when properly taken car of.

    So many were not ... :(
     
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    Hello 67bmer...

    What did you use and how did you get the underside of the hood so clean?

    Mike
     
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    I interested to know as well. I plan on replacing the aged bonnet foam on my SZ at some point.

    A cool car and a nice thread. Thanks.

     
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    After peeling the foam off I took a 1" paint brush and applied some paint thinner/mineral spirits (its a good solvent for certain things like oil, grease, etc. and won't hurt the paint - DO NOT use lacquer thinner or any other solvents sold at Home Depot, they will destroy paint) and then a second coat right away and used a plastic putty knife to scrape it off. Then brushed it again rigorously and wiped clean with paper towels. If you look closely, there are some minor scratches in the paint from the plastic putty knife, but none went through the red paint. They could all be polished out, but I am not going to worry about them since I will be putting new foam in.

    Then I cleaned up the oily spots on the engine the with the brush and paint thinner.

    Then I washed it with the garden hose and used the 1" brush with LA's total awesome cleaner (could use anything, but its pretty powerful and cheap) to really clean the remaining dirt. And the engine as well. Washed thoroughly with the garden hose.

    Started the car and let it warm up. And all was dry.

    I will give it a wipe with some Isopropyl alcohol prior to applying the new foam.
     
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    #9 67bmer, Dec 26, 2016
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    I managed to get the old clutch cylinder out tonight!

    Any advice for installing the new one (shown below)?

    I am thinking that I will install the flexible line to the clutch master, install them, install the clutch slave, connect the two, then install the brake master, reservoir, fill and bleed the clutch, bleed the brakes, and then put it all back together, timing belt, etc.
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    3m adhesive remover works very well. These pads just have to be replaced periodically even if you don't use the car all that much. I'm about to do my 3rd in 32 years and BTW the adhesive film backing ain't all that great, it tends to separate from the foam ... :(

    Spraying the bonding surface on the hood with 3M contact adhesive helps.

    Just protect everything before spraying.
     
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    #12 67bmer, Aug 9, 2017
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    I got the new fuel lines and filters installed Sunday and the car would not start! I might have the pre-pump filter in backwards (there was only a sharpie arrow indicating flow direction. I need to verify that it is going the right direction). I will take another look this weekend. I ordered a fuel pressure gauge and will check fuel pressure at the rails. If not, probably should check pump pressure output. I can hear it running - and then shuts down.

    Why does the fuel travel around the upper cowl (item 24)? And what the heck is that pictured in the upper left blowout? My car is like that and it looks like the AC line passes through the center of a section of the fuel line?
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    I've never seen a Bi-Turbo under the bonnet, but that would be your fuel-cooler. Especially when your tank is getting low and the outside temp is hot, the fuel can get very hot and you may get vapour-lock, notwithstanding the pressure the fuel is under. The fuel-cooler prevents that from happening, but only when the A/C is switched on.

    Looking good, keep at it!

    Jack.
     
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    I took the spyder to the 2nd DC Italian car show. ran great, it always has. I thought I would have the only Maserati there. Six showed up! 1 older, the Merak, and four newer, a new Quatroporte, Ghibli convertable (both left early) and the beautiful blue Gransport and the gray (I should know the model, but am not sure). There were 2 Ferrari 360 Modena coupes with manual transmissions present, blue and silver...
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