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  1. A12pilot

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    Using some fairing compound, I’m smoothing over the large gaps and getting the curves right. I’ve decided to do the body out of metal and will start that later this month! I’m hoping to have this finished buck done this month and will start on a few hammer bucks for the nose and tail section.

    I should be buying the donor car for the main cockpit section in the next week or so too. Starting to work on the windshield frame too.

    cheers
    Dave
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  3. A12pilot

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  4. Jaguar36

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    Looks awesome! How come you decided on a metal body? For the amount of effort you're putting into it it seems like going full bore and making a carbon body would be worth it.
     
  5. A12pilot

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    Many reasons for going back to my original plan of making a metal body, but mainly, nobody around here can make a mold or a body for me out of glass. And I really don’t want to mess with all that. I’d really like to have one and maybe one day I will, but right now I can’t find a shop willing to do it.

    I grew up in Pennsauken, right next door!

    cheers
    Dave
     
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  6. tritone

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    Looking great! Maybe consider some duplicates after the prototype.........:D
    PS: a shot of a 507 from BMW Classic, which is a partner of the Riva Historical Society. This event was at Lago Iseo Italy 2012.
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  10. Connoisseur_Eddie

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    Hi Dave,

    That is actually another dimension of restoring/building then I ever did with my Bimmers.
    Through many years of owning / restoring / taking apart historic BMWs, it also happened that I came into possesion of a side grille for the 507. It is a beautyful piece of art on my office wall :)
    I would be willing to soll it to someone enthusiastic enough to bild his own 507 from scratch. I can send pictures and the part number linking the grille to the serial number of the car it originally belonged to.
    I am very impressed by your work - really looking forward to the result!
    Kind regards,
    Eddie

    BTW: There is currently also a front fender for sale in Germany.
     
  11. A12pilot

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    Hi Eddie!

    PM sent!

    Updates to my project are in the works!

    Cheers
    Dave
     
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  13. tritone

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    Well, we're waiting...........:)
     
  14. A12pilot

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    Ha! Well, it'll be soon, but we're right in the middle of a move so it'll be a couple more weeks.

    Thanks for the enthusiasm for my build. I'm excited to get into the new shop and get this thing going again!

    Cheers
    Dave
     
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  15. Connoisseur_Eddie

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    Hi Dave,

    sorry it took me so long!
    I thought the pictures might be interesting to others as well - we can further discuss via PM.
    The side grille is numbered "016" and first I thought this would mean it belongs to the chassis number 70 016.
    However, during some research (I was eager to find the current owner of the car that the grille once belonged to) I learned that the number is not directly related to the VIN. I have been advised that while all parts of one car received the same number, but the number is not directly related to the chassis number.
    Despite I am still very interested to learn which car it the grille actually belongs to and what its destiny has been since it "lost" its grille, I did not perform any additional research since then.

    Kind regards,
    Eddie

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  16. A12pilot

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    Hi Eddie,

    Wow! Awesome! I have a contact that has a 507 that I've been corroborating with on measurements for my project, so I'll ask him if he may know where this may have come from.

    We'll chat more on this. I'm in an aircraft seminar today all day, so I'll PM during the breaks. Really excited about that part!

    Cheers
    Dave
     
  17. A12pilot

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    I have the same company that scanned my model and made my body buck scanning the model again to form solid wood body bucks for the nose and rear section. This will allow me to hammer on it with aluminum sheets to form it to all the curves. Exactly what a hammer buck is used for!

    And once Eddie and I corroborate on the side grille, I’ll have that scanned and printed as well as reversed for the other side. Woohoo!

    I’m hoping to have the body formed by the end of Summer depending on other projects.

    cheers
    Dave
     
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  18. 4re308

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    What a terrific, fun thread! Great work Dave!
     
  19. A12pilot

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    Thanks Mitch! I’m going to be making a few vids to post up on YouTube as well. Should have done it from the start, but it’s still pretty early on to describe everything.

    cheers
    Dave
     
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  20. RobJV

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    Hi Dave,

    I just joined the forum today after finding this build thread whilst researching for my planned 507 build.

    I’m finding your descriptions and photos extremely helpful in sorting through some ideas and choices I have to make. I’m leaning towards using a Z3 or Z4 as the chassis and drive train and building a plug, mould and then glass body from scratch, although I read that you may be changing tack and are going to make and fit an alloy body.

    Given I’m about to tread the same path I’m hoping I can draw a little on your experience and knowledge. In the first instance, did you post videos anywhere and/or have you got a library of photos or info you are willing to share (maybe via Dropbox or similar)?.

    I’m based in Melbourne, Australia.

    Thank you in advance for anything you can share.

    Cheers, Rob
     
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  21. A12pilot

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    PM sent Rob!

    And for everyone else watching my thread, I am going to start updating again soon. My move has taken longer than expected at the new house getting my shop in order, but it’ll be done in another month for sure and I’ll be back into the 507. My goal is to have it done by next November for a car show I want to unveil it at.
    Cheers
    Dave
     
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  22. A12pilot

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    Hey gang,

    Sorry for the delay in updates, but our move is finally done and I'm back into building on the 507. I was able to form up the nose and now I'm moving my way back to the fenders! Woohoo!! I get so tickled waking into the shop and seeing the beginnings of a 507 starting at me!
    First try at metal shaping and man it's challenging and fun. I'm going to a class, one on one, with a master coach builder in February to learn more which I'll need to do the larger panels. I'll probably redo them front end too.
    More to come..

    Cheers
    Dave



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  23. A12pilot

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    Moving forward, I fine tuned the front end a little aligning head light buckets, turn signals, and recurving some of the curves I wasn't happy with. I spend a few hours looking over my work comparing photos I've downloaded (about 1000...I know, I got problems!) of a real one to see the small subtleties that I don't want to miss. The small details you get wrong all detract from the original look and I'm trying to be as close as I can to the real thing. I've tightened up the fit and very happy with the results! Of course the final body work will smooth over all the lumps and bumps, but it's getting there.

    My 3D guy got the sample parts back to me and man, luckily, I'm pretty darn close to the correct sized opening for the side vents on the fenders. I should have the fully printed parts in a week! I'm doing the same with the front grilles. Remember, all I did was measure that model and multiply everything by 18 since it's 1/18th scale. Pretty damn close!

    I'm very fortunate to have befriended a gentleman who's scanned almost every part of a 507 he had and was going to restore, but sold. Additionally, another contact has restored 5 and he's giving me great tutoring on how to form the panels and such. Invaluable assets on this daunting project!

    Fender forming follies to follow!!

    Cheers
    Dave


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  24. A12pilot

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    Happy new year, gang!

    Parts are back from the printer and I've been working on the front and fabricated up a fender, beginning of the cowl panel, and starting on the other fender. My initial measurements on the car are just about spot on as these parts fit up nicely in my openings on the buck. Range of emotions holding the parts up....I'm lucky, shocked they fit, and relieved all at the same time. But, that's a testament to knowing that model is accurate and my buck is too. Phew!!

    I've decided after some professional council that I'll be building a custom chassis for it too. Later this week I head to visit a real one and get some measurements and photos. So excited!!

    Cheers
    Dave

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  25. A12pilot

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    Driver's side fender is basically done, and I have done some more cutting and splicing on the front end to fit the grilles better. I'll do the final bodywork later, but for now it's a better fit than it was. The trunk panel fits the buck nicely too!

    Time to move to the rear! I need to make a cart to mount the front on so I can fabricate the trunk gutter and fender lips in the door jamb area. Once I get the 62 Corvette I'm working on beside it out of the way I'll start on making the frame structure.

    Moving right along! Hope you enjoy the pics!

    Cheers
    Dave

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  26. BJK

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    wow - how times have changed! Anything is possible! :eek: :D
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    old man: "You guys have it easy today! We didn't have no god damned printers! We made parts with our bare hands and maybe a file if we were lucky! .............. :p

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