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My engine out adventure

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  1. dahveedem

    dahveedem Formula 3

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    The reverse is the part worrying me.. getting it back on. That's where you fashioned that contraption.
     
  2. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    To pull the idler bearing is simple.

    Get a long socket. the same inner diameter of the bearing bolt hole. Insert the socket to the hole, as a fulcrum for the puller. The pictures show using a bolt, which you Lu Duse but I wouldn't. The reason I like the socket is because you have less risk of damaging the aluminum threads of the engine block, and it more completely fills the bolt hole = less wobble.

    When I put the idler bearing back in, as I was threading in the retaining bolt, I used it to "press" on the new bearing.
     
  3. pnicholasen

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    The contraption part was for getting the front cover back on. The there's a front and rear bearing for the shaft of the cambelt drive wheel. (The rear one is the one you're supposed to make sure are ball bearings and not roller bearings) The front one is pressed into the front cover, so when putting the front cover on, you are also pressing that front bearing back onto the front shaft of the cambelt drive gear. That requires a bit of force.
    Like Ernie sez, getting the idler bearing in was easy. It's mounting bolt wasn't quite long enough to get it started when I tried. A little heat with a heat gun directed at the pocket that it goes in, put the bearing in place, a few light taps with a rubber mallet, and it starts to slide in. Then the bolt will grab the threads and pull it the rest of the way in.
    For pulling back the sping loaded bearing I found the easiest of the many tricks I tried and failed at, was the rachet tie down stap seen in the video. The angle from the front corner of the the subframe to the bearing is perfect. With the bearing base mounted on the engine you can crank away on the rachet without worrying about anything slipping off with a sudden missle-like bearing shooting acorss the garage and little springs getting lost.
     
  4. dahveedem

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    Maybe I'll throw some cash your way to come help me I get to that point... you are close to me. :)
     
  5. First Ferrari

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    #30 First Ferrari, Jan 22, 2013
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    I cheated all the guys in the hood were at the engine out event. I live in a area that has only 6 homes on the street and all the guys are part of our race team (Porsche and a vintage AMC not Ferrari) and we all have sports cars so we work on each others cars all the time, the only rule we have is if they help my wife feeds them!
     
  6. First Ferrari

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    Yeap that is who is doing the pump hope to have it back this week-The parts are all in from Daniel so if the pump is back this week I'm on to reassembly. I cleaned the entire engine and subframe so just need to put it all back together.
     
  7. RSO1091

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    Kind of a Tom Sawyer thing, eh?
     
  8. First Ferrari

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    Its going well, I will upload some pictures later.

    I had the thing put together and well I thought that I had exhaust cam locked on 5-8 bank and it must have slipped, it was under tension. I didn't notice till i had the darn thing back together. So guess what, tearing it all a part, good news is it was warm so we didn't put the engine back in, it must be -5 or lower to do this, no easy weather for this crew.

    I can now see the faint mark on the cam as the factory had such a light mark on the cam and cap that I added the paint, it was missed in my drive to button the engine up. So I guess this qualifies for 2 cam belt changes!!!! I'm not risking anything as the belt was under tension so I bought another from Daniel, should be in this week along with the T-stat that others are tring from another posting in the tech section.

    Dick Jordan of the Jordan company did a wonderful job on the water pump, it looks like new and bet it will work just the same!
     
  9. Ricambi America

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    Pressure test your pump before installation. Please.
     
  10. First Ferrari

    First Ferrari Formula Junior

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    Agreed ahead of you on that.
     
  11. WATSON

    WATSON Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Quick question.....How do you pressure test the water pump?
     
  12. Ricambi America

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    You scream and yell at it, while asking it to carry a rucksack on a long run through Parris Island while being eaten by sand fleas. Now that's pressure.
     
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  14. First Ferrari

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    Well the new t-stat is in, well I received the package and tested. It is a factory part and is 82 celius or 179.6, however when tested doesn't open till about 184F and closes about the same with a very sensitive thermocouple. I glad it is "off" just a bit as the ECM are sensitive to temps I have read.

    Now to button it all up! Next weekend is the "engine back in adventure" with pictures! Stay tuned! It should be warm so we may have to postpone till it is -5 outside as part of the install is outdoors due to the four post lift and a** end hanging of the lift.
     
  15. RSO1091

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    Thanks for keeping us apprized of your progress Chris. It was 82 degrees in SoCal today, but being from the east coast originally I can somewhat relate. Good luck with the re-install brother.
     
  16. First Ferrari

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    #41 First Ferrari, Mar 3, 2013
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    Well next weekend is the day!

    We are starting at 10am to put the engine back in. I attached some pictures of the clean engine going back in, I also cleaned the engine bay. I was surprised at how dirty the engine and bay was, it looked clean but wow was it dirty.

    We have 3 guys coming and a party after the engine is in!

    My wife is feeding this montly crew of friends, we are dining in the garge on the following-

    Bacon wrapped tenderloins
    Parmesan scalloped potatoes
    Roasted carrots and aspargus
    Bib lettuce salad with rasberry maple, purple onion and blue cheese crumbels

    Desert is cream cheese swirl brownies and a yellow birthday cake (Its the cars birthday!)

    Beer of the day- Bitter neighbor pale ale (fitting as the all the guys are our neighbors)
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  17. First Ferrari

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  20. First Ferrari

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    #45 First Ferrari, Mar 17, 2013
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    Well its all back in! It really wasn't hard, just pulling those ECM connectors through the firewall was. The whole process to get the engine back into position was about 2 hours. I fouund a torn CV boot so that is next, missed that while it was out. Also I overtightened the left fuel rail line so that is being sourced, cracked the aluminum nut until all the parts are in it's half done.
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  21. First Ferrari

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    #46 First Ferrari, Mar 17, 2013
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    Oh yeah my wife baked a cake for all of you that posted info, offerd help or just offered moral support, you all made this all possible!

    Thanks everyone!
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  22. RSO1091

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    Very cool Chris...
     
  23. plugzit

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    Great work by frozen stooges!
     
  24. cer54467

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    I like what you have done, at Least I know I am nit the only insane person in the upper Midwest.;-)
     
  25. First Ferrari

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    Well it's official- The engine out adventure is complete!

    Backed it off the hoist after rag tuning it yetserday. It was a short drive, just to the other garage stall as it is 35 degrees and wet out in MN.

    It runs like a champ, everything was pretty staight forward, I'm glad I have no leaks, it was easy but I can wait for another 3-5 years to do it again!

    Thanks to all that helped!
     

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