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Discussion in 'Australia' started by FFOUR, Feb 10, 2006.

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  1. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    you leave his grandma out of this, she's a lovely old sole (sic)

    heel be right :D

    (this may be going over some people's heads considering the spelling and grammar in this place)
     
  2. Aircon

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    errrrrrrrrrrr

    i don't think i need to comment on that one. you can bury yourself all by yourself.


    hey...i just noticed...isn't it sweet how all the stupid people stand up for eachother?
     
  3. PAP 348

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    LOL! Aircon breathing fire :D LOL
     
  4. FFOUR

    FFOUR F1 Veteran

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    umm, I don't see anyone standing up for you.... :confused:
     
  5. beama

    beama F1 Rookie

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    Wanna lend of some ammo? You seem to be running out.
     
  6. beama

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    Calling time out! Wine is opened and dinner on table. Hope it is fish (sorry Dingo, had to use it) so I get all the brain power that you have PP.
     
  7. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    hellooooo, stupid here :D
     
  8. FFOUR

    FFOUR F1 Veteran

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    my dinner is 2-3hrs away, but thats just put me off it.

    I just didn't want to say it. :)
     
  9. Admiral Thrawn

    Admiral Thrawn F1 Rookie

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    There is more to weight transfer than it just going backwards and forwards. All the beachball / sack of concrete comments just expose a lack of knowledge when it comes to tuning racing suspension.

    You have other issues to consider when cornering at the same time as accelerating and braking. It is very difficult to get right, as circuits are made up of different corners, all varying in camber, radius, inclination, surface smoothness, etc.

    For example, if the suspension it set up wrong, you can have the situation where the rear will be unloaded too quickly during braking, possibly locking the rear and causing instability. Or if the front suspension isn't set correctly, one wheel can become unloaded and lock.

    As fuel is taken on or consumed throughout a race, this weight acts as ballast which will alter the weight transfer of the car. Therefore, when taking on a tank of fuel, you would move the bias forward to compensate for the increased weight put on the front wheels under braking, and vice versa as you burn off the fuel.

    I could go on and on giving more examples and explaining how you make adjustments, but my point it that Aircon is right about weight transfer being one of the most critical aspects of achieving the best braking.
     
  10. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    don't be shy, we're not ;)

    on another tack, I was taking some photos of the car this arvo and totally screwed them up :(

    I'm blaming the cheapskate camera so am after a reasonably priced (remember PP and I can't afford to subscribe to this "fine" site) digital camera with about 6 MP and slr functionality ... nothing over a grand

    ..and it's got to be simple because I'm stoopid (plus I will never use all the functionality , on principle!!) .... I still haven't read the manual on how to send sms because I refuse to be like Warney :D
     
  11. FFOUR

    FFOUR F1 Veteran

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    show me the photos and I'll tell you if its the camera or you.... :p

    Then I'll tell you what to buy, if anything.
     
  12. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    thank you Albert, we were j/k , Steve and I do know a little about corner weighting as we piss around in rallies and trackdays too

    and agreeing with PP will only make him worse ....PLEASE DESIST!!!!

    he'll stretch my helmet :D
     
  13. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    no no no , trust me , it's the camera :p

    I'm "too smart" to make such basic mistakes :D
     
  14. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    #89 moretti, Feb 11, 2006
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  15. goober

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    that car looks so good with the save ferris on it, i reckon a 430 could do with one!
     
  16. goober

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    but you are warney just like i am ash as he is me, you know wlarus stuff
     
  17. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    "Show us ya tits!!" ........ ohh, I AM WARNEY !!!

    Howzat ??!!
     
  18. GTRMagic

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    Hey Mr Dee Jay....
    On topic for just a second (I know, I know its against the rules :D ) but that silver Lamborghini is just beautiful... the colour has a lot of depth to it... very nice indeed...
     
  19. moretti

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    nah, 430s need to save the weight, they're a bit slow :D
     
  20. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Oi !!!

    you know better than that :D

    at least we don't get bitter and twisted about it like the poms did with Tearse
     
  21. FFOUR

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    #96 FFOUR, Feb 11, 2006
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    1. There is way too much grain/noise in the picture, although I've removed some of it in the attached picture (plus a few other adjustments). Do you know whether you can adjust the ISO on your camera? If so then set it to the lowest possible setting (50 on my camera), its most likely on auto which always results in too much grain.

    2. Not sure how light it was at the time of the pic, but if the shutter speed starts dropping below 1/40 its best to use a tripod or something else you can rest the camera on.

    What model camera did you take that photo with?
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  22. goober

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    anyone ever thought it was the cars' fault
     
  23. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    the camera is the wife's HP "gift" I received for "accepting" a drop in my pay :(

    it's fully cheap !!! and auto as I like to use my Nikon and Olympus SLRs for proper shots and underwater photography but I haven't used them in years :(

    just need a reasonable digital camera with quality and SLR not gadgets

    lighting was late afternoon which didn't help
     
  24. ferrarifixer

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    gees, what a load of crap on here today........ caused by peepee as usual. What an asset to this community he is.

    I blame Carl, as he has often quoted how "tyres are the ultimate variable in stopping ability"

    Technically, this is quite true of course, however, it is massively misrepresentative of what really happens.

    Braking is the reverse of launching... and we all know that we can launch our cars quite differently if we try...... tyres, clutch engagement, throttle application etc

    Having better brakes.. (higher coefficient of friction, better hydraulic ratio/surface area, rotor size etc) makes BIG differences on the way a car stops.

    Steel brakes only work at their best in a quite narrow window of temperature... which is also quite low. Carbon Ceramic work at their best over a larger window, and at higher temperatures.

    Typically, the driver and passenger notice a much better bite at equal pedal pressure as the steel set up... making them assume the ceramic brakes are better. Of course, the brakes don't stop any better for this one stop, but the stop is easier to achieve for the driver. This is due to the better friction application and delivery and control, and progressive nature of the pad/ disc material... just like us doing a sharp pull away on a launch or a smooth one, just in reverse....

    BUT, the steel brakes will soon start to degrade, and this is where the ceramics come in.... they WILL stop better time after time....

    Bottom line...
    peepee once again misrepresents and distorts fact in a simplistic attempt to be argumentative for no reason or purpose..

    carbon ceramic brakes are better (shorter stopping distances) than steel brakes...... in normal use.
    For one stop, theres no difference.

    peepee, you're an idiot.
     
  25. RMV

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    This will be as good a time as any to grab the popcorn! :D
     

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