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My New 2014 458 Spider: Strange Noise

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by cab2u, Feb 16, 2020.

  1. cab2u

    cab2u Karting

    Nov 19, 2003
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    I picked up my 2014 458 Spider yesterday (Rosso Scuderia/Black, lots of carbon) from Ferrari of Long Island after having my 2011 California (also Rosso Scuderia) for 3 years. Its my 3rd car from them (Kevin King and Calvin Brown). It took a while to find the right car. They and their service department have always been great.
    I absolutely loved my Cali and I do not have a bad thing to say about it. But the 458 is a completely different car. I am looking forward to the spring.
    The only issue is this. When backing up, or pulling forward, with the wheels turned all the way, there is a loud banging/clicking sound, several of them, with the car feeling that it is skipping. I know that the dealer will take care of this, but I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas.

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  2. Ianjoub

    Ianjoub Formula Junior

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    The skipping feeling is a product of the aggressive alignment. It happens when 'in spec'. Any banging and clanking should definitely be checked.
     
  3. soulsea

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    The only time I’ve heard clicking from the front wheels on other cars is when the lug nuts are overtorqued.

    I’ve actually not experienced tire shudder on my 458 but that can be exasperated in cold weather, cold tire conditions, tire brand/compound can also matter.

    Def take it in tho ... she’s too pretty to make funny noises. :)
     
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  4. Il Co-Pilota

    Il Co-Pilota Formula 3

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    You could try and a bit of simple checks yourself.

    Get a jack under the car and start by making sure all four wheels are properly torqued without load on them. When you have each wheel lifted, try rotating it. Do this with the fronts straight and turned fully in each direction. That will give your shop a better understanding of what you experience and they can rule out things more quickly

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  5. cab2u

    cab2u Karting

    Nov 19, 2003
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    It was definitely cold. Unfortunately I don't have a torque wrench nor the equipment to properly jack up the car. I am sure the dealer will take care of it. I appreciate all of the input.
     
  6. MikeS

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    Nov 21, 2003
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    Sounds pretty normal to me on first review. It was cold up here yesterday. Chassis is stiff, tires hard and the alignment. Had a 458 and Speciale that reacted in a similar fashion. My Porsche’s do the same. Consider cranking the wheel less aggressively in the cold. Sure have it checked. FoLI knows their stuff.


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  7. IloveGT

    IloveGT Formula Junior

    Oct 17, 2015
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    At first I didn't believe it also. But the overtorque of the nut definitely could make the noise you described as it was fixed on my Lotus before. I thought the guy was just brushing me off. The noise was all gone now.

    But definitely have the dealer see what is going on, and let us know.
     
  8. up4speed

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    It is normal. It's called the Ackermann affect:
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    "What is the Ackerman effect?
    Explaining the Ackermann Effect: Without getting into too much geometry and mathematics, the Ackermann Effect is a skipping or lurching of the wheels when the vehicle is turning sharply. The effect is created by the inside and outside wheels traveling at different speeds and distances.Nov 18, 2013"

    Most of my sports cars did this. It's exaggerated in the cold (because the summer tire compound hardens), and also exaggerated if the tires are getting old because they harden / dry rot. Some brands do this worse than others. Pirellis tend to hop violently as they age and when it's cold out. My Michelin Super Sports that came on this car were doing it slightly when cold, but I replaced them last summer with the Michelin PS4S, and this winter they were pretty silent. There may have been very slight jumping, but only in the coldest weather.
     
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