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My new 488, dead on hwy

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by azilko, Jul 29, 2017.

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  1. azilko

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    Just picked up a 2016 488 from Ferrari in Seattle last Saturday. Had 2,900 miles on it. Was not only certified, but under warranty. Drive it home, and have driven it a few times this week.

    Well tonight, driving with traffic on the highway, it f'n died on me. Cruising along at 70, it just stopped working altogether. I had no where to pull off to due to the median, and nearly got hit several times. The traffic guy that pulled in behind me said the same. He saw several people nearly clipped me at speed even though I had my were hazards on.

    This is my first experience with this brand. I'm incredibly unhappy here.

    I'd post a picture of how dangerous it was if I could figure out how on this site. At any rate, I'm considering unloading the car back to Ferrari. Never had a new car just die. I've not modified, or done anything to the car. I was cruising with traffic with it happened. Since I've had it, I've yet to really open it op as I'm still learning it.

    Really glad my wife or daughter weren't in the car. I can't imagine what an impact at 70mph from behind would have done to us.
     
  2. dustman

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    Unfortunate to hear and happy you and other motorists are safe.

    Cars do sometimes have issues.

    Best.
     
  3. SoCal to az

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    Agree glad you are safe. Have. Ever ever heard of this. Hopefully it's something simple.

    Don't let this spoil your experience. Ferraris of Today are bulletproof for the most part. I'm sure it will be fixed and you can enjoy it further.
     
  4. TheMayor

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    #4 TheMayor, Jul 29, 2017
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    All I can tell you is this.

    As far as I know, you're the first person here that this has happened to with either a 488 or a 458. I can't recall a single post where some said the car "just died".

    Whatever happened must be incredibly rare. And, the car is under warranty. They should have given you the toll free number for Ferrari to pick up the car.

    Luckily, no one was hurt but for sure its unnerving. I've had it happen to me but with other makes.

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    Good luck getting it fixed and let us know what the dealer says.

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  5. azilko

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    #5 azilko, Jul 30, 2017
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    Here's 2 pics of the car on I90.

    I'm considering just having the dealer buy the car back. Don't think my wife will ever want to ride in it now. I get that cats have issues, but I've never had this happen with any brand. This simply should not happen to a $350k car in 2017.

    The dealer also said they weren't sure how soon they'd be able to get to it due to some race cars that needed work this week for a track event.

    6 days into my Ferrari experience now...
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  6. exoticcardreamer

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    Definitely scary . Did it get back to normal after you restarted the car ?

    This has happened to me in the past (non Ferrari ) . After restarting, it went back to normal .




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  7. azilko

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    The car won't start back up. I can move the powered seats, but can't get the window to roll up. Pressing the start button does nothing.
     
  8. Eilig

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    Yikes, that sounds absolutely awful! Will be interesting to hear was Ferrari Seattle has to say about it... Who did you deal with there? Roberto? Eric?
     
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    #9 TheMayor, Jul 30, 2017
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    Does the dash TFT come on?

    Call the Ferrari number and have them pick it up. That's what they are there for 24/7/365
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  10. azilko

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    I spoke with Eric a bunch today. He said Roberto is aware of the situation, but I haven't spoken with him yet.

    I too am curious as to how they'll deal with this. I've legitimately never felt so unsafe in a car. Really upsetting this is my experience with this brand. I get cars do stuff, but cmon. It's 2017, and we're dealing with $300k+ cars...

    What would you do here? What if your wife would never ride in it again?

    I "rushed" to get this car so I'd be able to enjoy it this summer. Now, it appears it'll be in the shop for the coming weeks to months. Huge waste in that situation.
     
  11. Eilig

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    I really doubt it will be in the shop that long... They hook it up to their computer and check OBDII info and know right away what the problem is... Ferrari Seattle is one of the top few dealerships in the US, and their mechanic (his name is Eric as well) is fantastic. My bet is that they'll have this sorted on Monday, and the car back on the road within a few days... Most important thing is that you're safe and didn't get hurt. But can understand you being very upset, I would be as well. Completely unacceptable.
     
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    The Eric I spoke with is the service manager (I believe). Very nice guy. Really enjoy working with him.. But he's not the mechanic as far as I can tell.
     
  14. TheMayor

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    Its your car now. You own it. Get it fixed. It doesn't fall under the lemon laws to have them buy it back.

    What are you getting at here? Just have them pick up the car, get it fixed, and deal with it.
     
  15. TheMayor

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    Why didn't they pick it up?

    I'm sorry but this not making a lot of sense here. The car dies on the freeway and you don't call the 800 service number to have it picked up and sent to the dealer? Where did it go after you couldn't start it? Why are you still messing with it? Its under bumper to bumper warranty for 3 full years.
     
  16. Eilig

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    Eric Brickley is the service manager (and he does also work on cars, I've seen him in the shop) and Eric Apple is the sales guy... Brickley did some work on one of my cars, and he did an excellent job.
     
  17. azilko

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    I live 500 miles away. They don't have someone local. The highway patrol called a flat bed, and I had the guy speak with Eric directly to ensure nothing got messed up. That shop is working to get an enclosed trailer to truck it back tomorrow. Otherwise, it's going on a flat bed with the drivers window down.
     
  18. TheMayor

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    OK... that makes sense. If we are going to help you, we can't read your mind. You have to tell us what's going on.

    Here is what is going to happen. They will send a truck to get it and bring it back. Then they will find out the problem and let you know. They'll fix it and send it back by truck.

    Now, if you are really upset that you don't trust the car, call the sales manager at the dealership and discuss it with them. I don't think you'll get very far but its the only way. The service manager won't do anything but fix it.

    Ferrari should pay for the pick up on the Freeway also.

    This could be as simple as a dead battery.
     
  19. azilko

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    I'm also brand new to this. I called the dealer first as I didn't know what else to do. I didn't know I needed to call an 800 number. However, Eric said I did the right thing as calling him would get this dealt with the fastest as he could push it through and stay on top of things.
     
  20. TheMayor

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    Well it's not easy to know what to do under stress. The 800 number is there so you can contact them at 3 in the morning or 3000 miles away from home. A lot of times you can't reach the dealer so you contact them.

    They will fix it. Like I said this is really rare as far as I have seen.
     
  21. azilko

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    It's definitely not the battery. Seats move, but windows don't. Also, I checked the battery. How'd a charger to it. Nothing worked.
     
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    If the voltage drops below a certain point the car will not start but the accessories can still work. The computer shuts down at like 11 volts. It's just a guess but I wouldn't rule out anything. The trickle charger will not do anything to jump start the car. In fact, I would avoid doing anything to it at all at this point.

    If the dealer says it's the battery, don't think he's pulling a fast one. They have to submit the warranty work to Ferrari and give you a copy of what they did
     
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    Psychologically , it can be difficult to get over this once they fix it.

    A dangerous thing happened to my friend in his 488 (totally different issue ) and he swore he would never get back into the car.

    Lucky for him ; we have very liberal lemon laws in California . He will be eligible to lemon the car because it was down for more than 30 days .

    If Ferrari /dealer were able to get it back up and running within 30 days then he would've had to either trade in the car or get dealer to buy it back at whatever they decided to agree on.

    You bought a used car still in warranty in a state that may have different lemon laws .

    You'll just have to wait and see how it plays out . It could just be a simple issue


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  24. Eilig

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    It's true that even a battery issue can cause some really funky things to happen in modern F-cars... For example, mine was having intermittent issues with shifts being rough/abrupt... Replaced the battery and the issue completely resolved. And regarding the seat adjustment working but windows not working, it might be the case that the windows pull more juice to operate than the seat does... Maybe the battery has enough juice to operate the seats but not enough for the windows. Just a thought. I agree with The Mayor, I wouldn't touch a thing at this point, as you want them to be able to diagnose the car exactly in its present condition.
     
  25. azilko

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    Very good points. It all makes complete sense. I'll follow this advice for sure.

    Still odd that it'd die while doing 70. I'd think the alternator would be making juice (unless it's the culprit).
     

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