My new (to me) 360 - the wait is almost over...

April, you jinxed it!!! The CEL came on this morning Oh well, time to connect the OBDII scanner and see what triggered it. Already tried tightening the gas cap - wasn't it... My understanding is that if it was the gas cap the CEL would immediately turn off upon re-start after tightening the gas cap.
Jes

 

So, if I connect the OBDII scanner and turn ignition on (without starting the car) the scanner reports no codes stored in memory and car is ready for emissions testing. But, the minute I fire up the engine it reports P0411 (Secondary air injection incorrect, upstream airflow detected), and the ready for emissions testing goes red. Turn car back off and re-do, and it still reports no codes stored when ignition is turned on (but car isn't started), and car is ready for emissions testing. Fire it up and P0411 shows up and no go for emissions testing. Any clues, suggestions?

I did add gas this morning before the drive where the CEL came on, but cap is tight. Would leaking gas cap trigger P0411 and would this not get stored?

I'm hesitant to clear codes since I need to put it through emissions testing, and it would require driving around to accumulate miles for emissions testing readiness. Besides, what would clearing do when it reports no codes stored in memory? Since it is not stored I'm hoping it is minor, and perhaps it can be resolved without resetting.

Does gas cap CEL eventually go out by itself? Requires certain number of re-starts... how many?

Jes

 

So, back to the P0411 OBDII code. I decided to reset the code and CEL with my OBDII scanner. I took the car for a 65 miles drive, and it has not come back. However, upon return I reconnected the OBDII scanner (with engine running so I can see codes). It does not show any codes, which is good, but one of the sub-groups has not yet completed a full cycle, and hence hasn't fully cycled all diagnostics for the CEL. That is the "AIR" subgroup. I bet that P0411 belongs to that group, and once sub-group complete will once again trigger CEL. Does anyone know the mileage cycle for the "AIR" sub-group on the 360?

My car has Tubi exhaust, and from this post http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=137016640&postcount=10 I read that the ports on these valves behind tail lights (see pics) need to be plugged. I got hopeful and went to check. The right side has not been capped, but the tube has a bolt in it - suppose that should do. So, whoever put the Tubi on was obviously paying attention. The left side is much more cramped, and I was unable to verify. I will probably try find some caps that provide a definite seal.

Jes

 

Turning off power for some time resets onboard diagnostics and turns off CEL - same can be done with OBDII scanner. If there is a real fault behind, then the CEL it will come back on at some point. Some groups take some miles for the onboard diagnostics to complete the check - I have 65 miles after reset and the AIR sub-group still has not completed check.
Jes

 

I'm now up to 120 miles since clearing the P0411 code. So far so good, but really no cigar... When I got home I hooked up the OBDII scanner, and the AIR sub-group has still not completed its run-cycle. Does anyone know the run-cycle for the OBDII AIR group? All other groups have completed their run-cycles successfully.
Jes

 

Could it be that I just need to run it with AC on to complete the AIR run-cycle? I have to admit that during the 120 miles I never has the AC on... I will run it within a couple of days with AC on.

I found the following on the internet. Of course, as they say, you get what you pay for, so who knows how accurate this is. Apparently, this was handed to someone by a test station:

A complete driving cycle should perform diagnostics on all systems. A complete driving cycle can be done in under fifteen minutes. To perform an OBDII Driving cycle do the following:

Cold Start. In order to be classified as a cold start the engine coolant temperature must be below 50°C (122°F) and within 6°C (11°F) of the ambient air temperature at startup. Do not leave the key on prior to the cold start or the heated oxygen sensor diagnostic may not run.

Idle. The engine must be run for two and a half minutes with the air conditioner on and rear defroster on. The more electrical load you can apply the better. This will test the O2 heater, Passive Air, Purge "No Flow", Misfire and if closed loop is achieved, Fuel Trim.

Accelerate. Turn off the air conditioner and all the other loads and apply half throttle until 88km/hr (55mph) is reached. During this time the Misfire, Fuel Trim, and Purge Flow diagnostics will be performed.

Hold Steady Speed. Hold a steady speed of 88km/hr (55mph) for 3 minutes. During this time the O2 response, air Intrusive, EGR, Purge, Misfire, and Fuel Trim diagnostics will be performed.

Decelerate. Let off the accelerator pedal. Do not shift, touch the brake or clutch. It is important to let the vehicle coast along gradually slowing down to 32km/hr (20 mph). During this time the EGR, Purge and Fuel Trim diagnostics will be performed.

Accelerate. Accelerate at 3/4 throttle until 88-96 km/hr (55- 60mph). This will perform the same diagnostics as in step 3.

Hold Steady Speed. Hold a steady speed of 88km/hr (55mph) for five minutes. During this time, in addition to the diagnostics performed in step 4, the catalyst monitor diagnostics will be performed. If the catalyst is marginal or the battery has been disconnected, it may take 5 complete driving cycles to determine the state of the catalyst.

Decelerate. This will perform the same diagnostics as in step 5. Again, don't press the clutch or brakes or shift gears.

 

Some further digging revealed the above as GM's OBDII drive cycle: http://www.obdii.com/drivecycle.html

Now, if anyone knew Ferrari's OBDII drive cycle... Anyone?

Edit: Found it here http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=138822038&postcount=14

Jes

 

After 160 miles the CEL has not come back on, and I took it for CA smog today. It passed the rolling road test and all other tests. Silly me, I thought I was all golden and went to AAA to transfer ownership and register it... just to learn that AAA does not do the DMV paperwork when car is bought from a dealer, only private party sales - go figure.... Trying to make an appoinment with CA DMV - good luck, next available time is Sep 28 - what a joke. So, one has to go line up and waste a day waiting at the DMV office, and who knows what misery they'll put me through Gotta love CA...
Jes

 

I'm in south Orange County.

Given how little it takes people to screw up, I think I will handle this myself. I cannot imagine the pain having to straighten out something with DMV because an agent made a mistake or lost paperwork...

It's ironic, I thought: great, the dealer has prepared all the paperwork, I just carry it into AAA and register. Uh, oh, no... It has been a while since I dealt with US goverment or state beaureaucracy and had happily forgotten the joy. Guess I will get a flashback in the coming days

Maybe I'll try call a AAA center to double check it is really true they can't do cars bought through a dealer. Maybe it only appplies to cars from CA dealers, and she didn't bother to check but just brushed me aside. What are the chances they changed policy between beginning of the year and now?

Jes

 

Nope, AAA confirmed, they are not allowed by CA DMV to register vehicles bought from an out of state dealership in the AAA office. They just obey CA DMV and cannot provide any reason.

Time to go line up at DMV...

Jes

 

After spending an afternoon at CA DMV getting it registered, transferring title, and paying CA taxes + registration (=$$$), I finally got time to put on the modular wheels and replace the siren with a new one. I had no beeping and constant red alarm light while driving. I learned from other threads that this is a sure sign that the rechargeable battery in the siren has expired. Based on the information in various threads I opted for a new siren (instead of wiring in a new battery), and comparing the two I can see that the new one uses a different type of battery. After replacing the siren all alarm functionality is back to normal - gotta love F'chat

Find below a few pics with the modular wheels.

I put quite a bit of miles on it over the past couple of weeks - love it.

Jes
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