My Ricambi Carbon Fiber Door Sills for 458

Amazing Job

 

They look fantastic indeed !! Good job

 

beautiful. any chance you can weight the old sills to compare with the carbon?

 

Steve,

Those new sills look great. Good idea!

 

Beautiful carbon. As I have the race carbon interior think I may install the seals in my 458. Looks like an easy install.

 

They are actually not like the OEM version at all. I bought a set for my 488 spider and they were poor quality with glue all over the fake looking “ Ferrari” lettering which was way too big and blocky. Im happy to post photos of the comparison. I returned them and bought OEM ones for about $150 more. No brainer.

 

I concur. My set were top notch and excellent value. My customer service experience was also excellent with Denis. I purchased a bunch of their carbon parts not just the kick plates and everything was excellent quality. No affiliation with them either. Just speaking of my own experience

 

Also have to agree, the carbon pieces I received from Denis are perfect matches to the factory carbon I ordered with my 488, and Denis was VEERY responsive and helpful throughout the buying process. My pieces are being installed by my dealer next week, and I can comment on fit at that time.

Jim

 

I really don’t care to convince you. I’m a long time owner and regular contributor here. That said I agree Dennis was great and he let me return them for a full refund saying the ones I received were not up to par. Feel free to ask him if you don’t believe me. I have all the photos and email correspondence.

About what I paid, I found an extra set the parts department at Ferrari of Atlanta had and wanted to unload. I paid $950 for the OEM ones so I figured rather than risk another “bad”set to save a few bucks wasn’t worth it. Glad you are happy.

 

I'd like to see the photos please.

 

I think the issue is that RCorsa should have specified that “his“ set we’re not the quality he expected as opposed to just generally inferring that they are all bad quality. Clearly he had a bad experience but more than likely that was an outlier when compared to the majority who are happy with their purchase and who probably wouldn’t get the same deal on the OEM that he got since it was an extra pair they were looking to unload as he mentioned. It’s the difference between me saying that a restaurant it’s awful because I had one bad meal there even though they generally have very positive reviews versus just saying that my experience wasn’t the same as most peoples.

 

There are two key areas where the fake CF sills differ from real OEM ones. These are subtle but were important enough for me to return them and get OEM. For anyone to say the fake ones are “a perfect match” is simply not true or maybe they need an eye exam. The carbon fiber weave is similar but that’s about it. The first photos are my real OEM ones taken this am. I’ll need to find my photos of the Ricambi ones I ordered. They were taken on my IPhone 7 and I’m on the iPhone X now. In retrospect I sent him the photos via text not email so they may not have transferred or I deleted them? Thus The third photo is from his website, (which is not great quality) but those who own them now I would encourage to post high resolution ones while I search for mine.

1) The first key is the lettering. The top line of the “Ferrari” has a small line connecting the top line to the letter itself. In the fake ones this connection line is as wide as the entire top of the letter whereas the OEM its about half that size. As an enthusiast, when I first saw them they just looked off and I was right. The letters themselves are bulbous as well, especially the “r” on the fake ones as well.

2) The second issue the two carbon groves on either side of the Ferrari. The fake ones this is a grove whereas the OEM ones its is actually a raised ridge.

The ones I got from Dennis were also poor quality fakes too as one of my Ferrari emblems was actually slightly crooked by 1/16th of an inch and had some glue on the top of the CF. I suspect this is an anomaly and as such he was great, and the customer service was perfect in my return so I’m not questioning his business practice. He is selling fake Ferrari parts and doesn’t market them as OEM. I think its important to be accurate in our community of enthusiasts. For some spending a couple hundred bucks less is more important than having them look perfectly OEM and that’s fine by me.....
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i think you misunderstand the difference between the words fake and aftermarket. Is a carbonio airbox a fake too? the other points you make are accurate per your experience or your opinion so it's as valid as any.

 

Found it on my Google photo app which stores everything in the cloud. Here is the photo of my Ricambi ones. You can also see the glue next to the r on the left hand side but the main point is the logo looks fake because it is.




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Right...right... amazing point. Kind of like a “fake” Rolex versus an “aftermarket” Rolex. I stand corrected.

 

false equivalency but i'll leave it at this, counterfeits (fakes) are illegal. Ferrari have never been shy about lawsuits so why haven’t they sued these other manufacturers? You seem to be pretty upset that your purchase wasn’t 100% exact as OEM even though you knowingly bought what you yourself call “a fake“ to save the same “couple hundred bucks some other people do" (though it’s more like 800-$1000 for most other people who won’t get the same sweet deal you got). Like I said, you make valid points about your experience, however, the way you frame your arguments to throw unnecessary shade obviously provoked a response.

 

Well I’m not a trademark attorney but unless they have gotten permission from Ferrari to apply a logo to a part meant for resale, it probably IS illegal. My best friend is the General council of a 600B dollar corporation and I’m sure I could ask him the details of what is illegal but also difficult or to costly to enforce? Again not the point here......

Also, You are correct that I was also fooled by this. If I recall when I bought them they were advertised as aftermarket Carbon Fiber but with OEM badges so sure I figured if they look the same why not save a few hundred dollars as I also thought getting the OEMS would cost a couple grand. Of course the adage “you get what you pay for” holds true and lesson learned — as what I got was different. Thus, I decided it was worth it to me to spend the extra money to have it look right to my eye on my 350K car. The main issue I had with the OP and subsequent posts is people saying “perfect matches” and “look exactly like the more expensive OEM” when that’s just not the case. This way, if another owner wants to replace his or her sills with these at least they know what EXACTLY they are getting and determine if its worth it to them or not.......

 

Well, until a more credentialed person chimes in on the legality issue, I'll leave the first paragraph alone.

On the second paragraph, here is a good, mostly objective contribution. See, no shade necessary to get a valid point across. Onto the next one. Cheers

 

Hi, my name is Ian, and I am one of the owner of My Ricambi, LLC. I am a bit surprised to see so much discussion regarding these sills. So if you guys don't mind, I would like to jump in and clarify a few things about them, and I am sure this will resolve that.

In all fairness, overall RCorsa is not wrong in his assessment and statement but not in its entirety (I'll explain). First, I would like apologize for the bad experience you (RCorsa) may have encountered with our product, and I would be more than happy to make it up to you should you give me or Denis a call.

That said, you are correct when you are stating that the OEM Ferrari emblems we are using on our door sills are not the ones Ferrari are using on theirs, for the simple reason that Ferrari does not offer those specific emblems for sale.

So how do we do?
We have found a "workaround" : The closest OEM Ferrari emblems/badge we have found available and that can be purchased from Ferrari for our door sills are Ferrari PN 220354 and 220355 (Feel free to check the respective PN). Those emblems are the Ferrari emblems that are going on the 430 Challenge carbon fiber air intake manifolds (plenum chambers) - RCorsa is right there is a difference of sizes with those emblems and the ones Ferrari is using for the kickplates but the difference is very small and barely noticeable, but there is a small difference. However RCorsa is wrong when he states with full certainty in one of his previous post that the "logo is fake" because it is not. (Just wanted to clarify this )

RCorsa is also right about the grooves: Ours are recessed like the regular aluminum sills and the Ferrari ones are raised. (There is a reason for that...)

With that being said, whatever carbon fiber items we are selling, which do carry a Ferrari OEM emblem or cavallino, those are purchased from Ferrari. The Ferrari emblems for the door sills and the "soon to come" 458 carbon fiber air intake manifolds have OEM Ferrari emblem, the gas caps, the lock covers and license plates we are selling have the dashboard emblems from the respective cars (458 Italia, Spider, Speciale, F12, 488 ) etc...

We understand we cannot unfortunately please everybody, but we do try. In this instance, RCorsa was not satisfied, and that was quite regrettable (it happens and once more I apologize to you RCorsa), but at least, fault of not providing you with the expected product, I can read in your posts that the service provided was satisfactory.

In conclusion, personally, I do take this as positive criticism and I thank in part RCorsa for his posts. This is forcing us to stay on our toes and do our utmost to provide great products and services to our customers. If we drop the ball, then remind us... we will make sure to step up the plate and provide you with what you expect. We are not perfect, nor do we pretend to be, but if we sell you a product that does not fulfill your expectations, just contact us... we will work with you to make sure your purchasing experience with us is pleasurable and most importantly... satisfactory.

Thank you and HAPPY NEW YEAR to all of you.

Ian Rattray