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My suggestion for F. Chat - A $ Discussion Section

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by docapl, Feb 6, 2004.

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Should $ discussions be in a separate forum section

  1. Yes, the financial debates are useless and irritating in the General Forum

  2. No, I like to constantly be reminded that my F car is depreciating

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  1. docapl

    docapl Formula Junior
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    Although I dont post that much, I do enjoy reading the board. Unfortunately, I have noticed an increasing amount of space in the General Forum being clogged up with discussions about Ferrari / (and Lambo) wholesale and retail prices. Ex. "What is this 360 worth ? " Since this has almost nothing to do with the enjoyment and driving experience of Ferrari, is it possible that a special section could be created as a forum for these financial debates and discussions ?

    Just my 2 cents...
     
  2. acw

    acw Karting

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    Actually, it would be extremely useful to have a section where members can share how much they paid for what car. This would create some kind of unique ferrari (and lambo if needed) market index.

    AW
     
  3. ghost

    ghost F1 Veteran
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    Agree with this 100%.

    Thanks.
     
  4. Sfumato

    Sfumato F1 Veteran
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    Agreed. Maybe an Allen discussion forum too, so he won't be left out :p
    Leave out the Lambos, they can start their own board. NoracingheritageChat.com? TractorsfridgescarsChat.com? We'dbuyporschesbutthey'retoocommonChat.com?
    Just trying to help ;)
     
  5. docapl

    docapl Formula Junior
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    I like your idea for an index of transaction prices.
     
  6. Cavallino Motors

    Cavallino Motors F1 World Champ
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    If you spread the topics too much you will find les and less people corresponding in the main forum.

    I see myself now always looking inot Florida first ebfore I check General. rarely check off-topic.

    You have a choice, don't read the post if you don't want to get into the discussion on that subject.

    my 2c
     
  7. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Global Moderator
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    Yep, add a section for price talk. That way you can find it all in one place, and maybe unclutter general topic area.

    Also, subscribe to FML http://www.ferrarimarketletter.com he's got a monthly asking price index based on his classifieds that is helpful.

    Doesn't Cavellino have a section listing prices?

    If we're gonna have a section on what we paid/what it's worth, we'll need enough info to judge value. Year, color, mileage, general condition, # of prior owners, etc. Lots of factors in pricing.
     
  8. wax

    wax Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Just be prepared for any simple discussion/list to be turned into flamewars by the pathetic "Mondial-sucks 308-LOL!LOL! 360-compared-to-Murcountardos" divide and conquer Ferrari(c)hat(t)ers anyway.

    Actual Retail Value: 2¢
     
  9. ZINGARA 250GTL

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    I agree. Frankly, after having a Lusso for thirty years, I was ignorant of the newer f-car market. This would also be great for the younger or first-time buyer market who could use the help.
     
  10. Dino 208gt4

    Dino 208gt4 F1 World Champ

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    I agree with Martin,
    I always go first to Europe and after that sneek a little at GFD. I do not read other topics, costs way to much time to read everything.
    Just my 2 eurocents

    Roel
    www.dinogt4register.com
     
  11. bustedknuckle1

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    While it seems to make sense to isolate such a topic as economics, I wonder where we would draw the line. Following this logic, we could end up with dozens of finely sliced categories. For me, as a recent subscriber, I like the variety and just skip over what doesn't seem to be of interest.
     
  12. FerrariFrank1

    FerrariFrank1 F1 Rookie

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    Yes,but no matter what anyone else says. A car is worth what it's worth to the owner.(or prospective buyer) Did you watch the Barrett-Jackson auctions on Speed? There were guys,(Some people call them the "More money than brains" crowd...) But,they were HAPPILY shelling out Several THOUSANDS of Dollars-Tens of Thousands of Dollars- for cars that weren't really "WORTH"-My opinion- Half of what they actually PAID for the cars. But...Whatever I think,doesn't mean a rats ass to those guys,. They WANT those cars,and will pay whatever they WANT to get them. "Worth"? Secondary. Purely in the eye of the beholder. Whether the car is New or Old. Look how many guys pay SEVERAL THOUSANDS of Dollars OVER sticker,just to be the First guy on the Block to have a new car model when it first comes out. (anyone know someone with a new T-Bird,PT Cruiser,etc...that they bought,just to be the First on the block? They're probably taking a beating if they go to try to sell it now. Wait until the new Mustangs and Vettes come out. There will be a "shortage" of them when you go to a dealer to try to buy one. "They're so Hot,there's a 2 year back-up on production. I can get you one,Pal,but it's going to cost you.....") Automakers actually RELY on that "Phenomena" to help boost sales of New models of cars. More money than brains? My opinion. Worth it? Their opinion. Then,you see posts from people,whether they own a Ferrari or not,saying "I'd never pay that much for that car. You can get a 360 Spider for $140K. Someone must be nuts to pay that much"-blah,blah,blah. Show me these $140K 360 Spiders. American Spec. Not "off" color combo's. Not rebuilt wrecks. Nice,new cars in good condition. As they say...Talk is cheap....The proof is in the pudding...
     
  13. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    I think the value discussions should be banned altogether.

    If they need to know what it's worth, call their loan officer.
    If the have cash, they KNOW what it's worth.

    It's about as useless as the endless "This model or that model" BS.

    It's especially meaningless as you don't know if they are looking at a mint condition vehicle, or a salvage title off the bottom of the ocean.

    It also seems they are started by the 'ahem' junior members of our community.

    Cavallino updates the market with every new issue. My .02
     

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