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  1. jk0001

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    Formula 1 drivers do not like to talk about their salaries - as FIA President Max Mosley discovered recently when he asked them to prove that they were suffering hardships because of his demand for higher licence fees. It is generally accepted that the highest paid driver is Kimi Raikkonen, who did a deal for 40m Euros a year with Ferrari. The strength of the Euro means that this is now worth around $53m a year, which is a very large sum of money. Others who are believed to have good salaries are Fernando Alonso ($30m), Lewis Hamilton ($25m), Jenson Button ($20m), Nick Heidfeld ($15m), Felipe Massa ($15m) and then several others who earn in the region of $10m a year. Some of the drivers have been earning more because they exploit their own merchandising and do personal sponsorship deals in addition to what comes from the teams.

    The earning model in NASCAR is rather different where the salaries are lower but augmented by prize money which is made public, and by intensive merchandising. According to Forbes magazine's latest issue the highest paid NASCAR star in overall terms is Dale Earnhardt Jr. He has won few races in recent years but having dual paint schemes on his Hendrick Motorsports Chevrolet means that he is making much more money from merchandising than he was as his fans are buying the same things twice. He is reckoned to have earned $35m in 2008, despite finishing only 15th in the points.

    Four-time champion Jeff Gordon did not win a race in 2008, although that was the first time that had happened since 1993. He is NASCAR's highest money winner of all time and earns $10m from his endorsements with companies like PepsiCo, Time Warner Cable and Electronic Arts. His overall earnings are reckoned to be $30m.

    Making the top three money-earners all Hendrick Motorsport drivers is Jimmie Johnson, champion for the last three seasons, who is reckoned to make $23m a year, with $15m in salary and prize money and the rest in merchandising.

    Tony Stewart, now a team owner himself, is estimated to have taken home $19m last year thanks in part to his fiery temperament, which makes him a crowd favourite. Rising star Kasey Kahne and veteran Kevin Harvick are both believed to be making $14m, the latter thanks to $8.5m in prizemoney.

    Kyle Busch won more races in NASCAR's top three series last year than any other driver, with 21 victories, which translated into earnings of $13m, while Roush Racing's Matt Kenseth was one of only a handful of drivers with a salary over $7m, but he makes $12m overall thanks to his endorsements and prize money.

    The top 10 is completed by former F1 driver Juan Pablo Montoya and rising star Denny Hamlin, who are both reckoned to make $11m a year. Montoya has one of the highest salaries in NASCAR but has used the F1 model and signed over most of his merchandising rights to his team.



    and how much do they charge for a ticket to the events?
     
  2. AlexO91

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    If you mean, tickets to an F1 race then Silverstone is around £250 pp, but races like Spa and Monza are much cheaper. Not sure at all about NASCAR.
     
  3. jk0001

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    Is that for general admission? or for the dog and pony show fancy booth tickets.
     
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    $150.00 USD for a Daytona 500 ticket face. I imagine this price would be one of the highest in Nascar. Prices have dropped on lower priced tickets from $90.00 to $55.00, this 500 will not be sold out, predictable and a portent of the season.
     
  6. tifosi12

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    Why does the thread title stress that it is the men in NASCAR who make the money? Do they have any women driver?
     
  7. Isobel

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    They will in 'Cup' when Danica leaves IRL after this season. A few ladies are floating around in the lower ranks.

    Off topic, I'm not as interested in the 500 as I am in qualifying for the last 4 spaces on the grid tomorrow in the duels.
     
  8. Whisky

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    Me too, I was hoping James Hylton would be up-to-speed.
     
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    A one race win wonder.
    Looking at the Salaries based on showmanship and not results she may have found a home in NASCAR.
     
  10. R2112

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    Do the guys in NASCAR get a bonus at the end of the season for how many wrecks they were involved in?
     
  11. 62 250 GTO

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    The same can be said for F1 drivers. You're also probably not factoring in how close these cars run on the ovals. They are door to door and nose to tail for hundreds of miles, the cars go over bumps, endure turbulence, pass in tight quarters etc. Laugh if you want but if it was easy people on this board would be making 10 million a year doing it.
     
  12. MordaloMVD

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    Please tell me you are joking. :) Of course, all driving takes skill, yet I don't see NASCAR up there with F1 and Ralley car skill requirements.
     
  13. 62 250 GTO

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    Why not? If I have enough money and minimal skill I can buy a ride in F1 and that's not a dig at Formula One, it's a fact. I've seen more reckless drivers in F1 over the last 10 years than I have in NASCAR.

    Also if you want to equate skill with the number of collisions drivers have, then compare the passes to collision ratio in F1 vs. NASCAR. More F1 drivers trip over other cars than NASCAR on a per pass basis. If you like the phrase "they can only turn left", then perhaps you should watch a road race, or Bristol.

    If you ran F1 cars on an oval for hundreds of laps you'll have a boat load of crashes too. F1 and rally racing get the nod from most guys on this site because they think they're more prestigious series'. The southern accent within NASCAR brings a lot of stereotypes which flows through the series from people who don't watch it or turn their nose at it. It's a predictable, nauseating and snobby to an embarrassing degree.

    Watch the Daytona 500 and you'll see how those cars travel in a pack and how nerve racking it is going into and exiting corners being so close to so many other cars.
     
  14. R2112

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    :D :D :D Very funny stuff!!


    Yes, he has to be joking. F1 drivers who can't cut it in F1 get full time rides in NASCAR...nuff said. :D
     
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    Sorry but I couldn't resist... :D
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    Daytona 500 $350 face value Sprint Tower.

    When an F1 driver loses it, likely there is no one around him as there is little passing in F1. If a NASCAR driver loses it, they will likely take out a few cars as they actually race in NASCAR. 62 250 GTO makes a 100% valid point.

    And there is only 18-20 of these overpaid F1 maidens on the track, compared to 40-44 at Daytona at a constant 190mph in packs of 4-8, sosmetimes 3 abreast?? The F1 argument does not hold any merit.

    Sorry, but I couldn't resist:
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    Massa is a bargain !
     
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    good lord kimi what a salary!
     
  19. 62 250 GTO

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    If that's your bench mark we'll see how well Scott Speed does this weekend.
     
  20. R2112

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    Glad to see you back in the F1 section Ron! :)

    Yes, I understand the logistics of why wrecks happen multiple times in NASCAR and sometimes in F1. I also acknowledge that NASCAR drivers actually do race...heck, when you have two or more vehicles traveling with the intentions of one of them arriving to a certain destination sooner than the other, that's racing too. For me tho, I watch NASCAR for the entertainment value and F1 for the technical racing value. If there wasn't so many frequent wrecks in NASCAR it would be pretty boring...just a bunch of bricks bullying each other around a circle. I would rather watch IRL. Those drivers actually go fast and are often racing inches apart at well over 200mph...now that's interesting!

    Please understand I have nothing against NASCAR drivers or think what they have achieved doesn't deserve merit if that's what you're into...it's just not what I'm into. ;)
     
  21. R2112

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    Hopefully he'll do well if he's one of the lucky ones who doesn't get pushed into having a wreck or is able to luckily avoid getting caught up in a wreck.
     
  22. 62 250 GTO

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    Well just a couple of days ago he was on the track twice and crashed out twice.
     
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    Hola amigo, bienvenido a Ferrarichat!

    The new lady in you avatar is cute, good 4 ya!

    I liked the 3rd pic you posted: Regazzoni in the up and coming Williams FW06, the predecessor to the FW07, which almost nailed the 79 title.
     
  24. R2112

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    Right on...

    As I stated before, I hope he does well.
     
  25. Anthony_Ferrari

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    The pictures you posted seem to contradict this statement.

    I think it is true that there is some snobbery about Nascar which is probably undeserved. I have tried watching Nascar, but just can't get into it. I'm the same with Indy or any oval racing. I am sure the drivers are skilled, but it just doesn't do anything for me. Rally driving is awe inspiring as it looks so fast, dangerous, and skillful.

    Of course nothing beats SLOTCAR: http://www.slotcar2009.com/;)
     

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