Nascar's Kyle Larson is better than Max Verstappen

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Rocky avg lap: 3:52.2
Rocky fast lap: 3:50.5

Button avg lap: 3:52.9
Button fast lap: 3:50.8

JJ avg lap: 3:55.5
JJ fast lap:3:52.6

so that's roughly 2.6 seconds avg lap and 1.8 fastest lap

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Another comparison:

2022 Daytona 24. JJ's ninth (!) Rolex 24, and second in a DPi car, so no excuses for not knowing car or track.

his teammates were Kobayashi, Lopez (both factory Toyota WEC drivers) and Rocky again

this is just fast lap:

Kobyashi 1:34.1
Lopez: 1:34.3
Rocky: 1:34.5
JJ: 1:35.2

so again, 3 teammates within 4 tenths of each other, JJ 7 tenths back.

JJ was slower than Ben Keating, an amateur driver who sells cars for a living!


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2022 Petit LeMans. they podiumed! good team result. again, Kamui and Rocky as teammates

Kamui: 1:10.5
Rocky: 1:10.8
JJ: 1:11.9

over a second off. slowest of the DPi drivers by 7 tenths, slower than the quick LMP2 drivers.



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Kamui used to be an F1 driver....fyi.

 

don't rub salt in the wounds

Kamui is very fast in anything...would probably give Larson a run for his money!

 

in fact, when not saddled with JJ as a dead weight teammate, Kamui has a 100% win rate in the Rolex 24

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My only memories of him in F1 include running over his pit crew and crashing his Ferrari F1 car in the Moscow demonstration.

 

and I didn't even dig into his IndyCar times!

 

Kamui has tried his hand in one NASCAR race (was it Watkins Glen?)

 

COTA and Indy with 23XI

 

And Max wouldn't make it 1 lap at speed in Larsons best discipline. A sprint car with no drivers aids.

 

Guys, lay off Jimmie, he’s a pretty upstanding guy (just an ask, not an order lol). He didn’t have anyone pay his way into motorsports, didn’t bring a good sponsor, and almost never says or said anything against any other driver or team, even those who’d run him into a wall or try to crash him out of a race.

He grew up in a trailer park in El Cajon CA, not the best neighborhood in the world. Great parents, salt of the earth blue collar types. He and his wife started and run a foundation to help K-12 kids, too.

Talented and unassuming, he’d agree with those here looking at the data on his endurance car career, and his Indy Car driving wasn’t that spectacular (started at 45, older that the age most are retired).

In addition to the individual and season wins, which we can all say were helped by the rules, he had more than 300 top 10 finishes in NASCAR, and IMHO the third best driver they’ve had after Dale Earnhardt Sr. and Richard Petty (Earnhardt would have loved F1, he’s run everyone else into a wall most likely. I think he would have put in a cow catcher and wheel spikes if they would have let him).

 

The best thing to do with a braggart is to let him talk.

 

not entirely true, he got massive support from GM starting in his off road days, and they took him from there to NASCAR and he managed to parlay that into the Hendrick ride off personal connections. so no, he didn't bring the budget but he knew how to get the budget. fair play to him. that doesn't mean he's talented...just marketable

and I will concede he is a drama and scandal free driver who seems to be a good person, which we can't say about a lot of people in professional motorsport.

 

+1 but the rules from Kyle are no dust on the Track only new tires and NO RAIN because I never drive in the rain,

 

JJ naysayers should tune into the Goodwood Revival (on Youtube). He co-drove an Aston Martin DB 2 in one of the races against Cobras, XKEs, and a lot of Cortina's. JJ pulled out to a 6 second lead when he turned the car over to his co-driver, who continued to pummel the opposition. A very well sorted car, and JJ was on his best form, looking really good.
The Goodwood Revival is some of the greatest vintage racing on the planet.

 

Just look at how SVG mopped the floor with Nascar drivers on street circuits. Larson’s assertions are idiotic. Why don’t you beat the V8 Supecar champion first before you take on 3x F1 World Champion.

 

JJ drove a great race (fast lap I believe), but binned the car in practice on Friday. that car was a bondo special for the race

also, if we're relying on vintage racing to salvage the reputation of a 7 time champion in any form of motorsport, we have a problem...

 

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btw it seems Larson is going to do the double (Indy 500 and Coke 600) again next year

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So if you had to bet your house on it you’d take Larson over SVG on a road course??