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Need a Nikon lens recommendation for race photography

Discussion in 'Other Racing' started by speedy_sam, Apr 14, 2006.

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  1. speedy_sam

    speedy_sam F1 Veteran

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    Andreas, the Bigma lens (what some people call the 50-500) seems like a big boy ... Is it too heavy to pan without a monopod?
     
  2. tifosi12

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    Not for the first couple of laps.
    :)

    Seriously, it just depends on how strong you are (oh oh, that doesn't sound good) and how much you shoot. In a location like the hairpin turn as Indy I would put it on a monopod (collapsable roughly to the size of the lens) and wait for the cars to come into the frame, fire with AF and enjoy the fact that you're basically shooting fish in a barrel (honestly, that's how I feel sometimes with this lens, it is just too darn easy).

    At the Canadian GP I didn't bother to bring the monopod so I shot from the seat in my stand and that worked fine. After a while you get a bit tired in the arms, so you take a rest.

    I also used it for the Chicago Air and water show last year (will post some pics later) and there it was all freehand. Since planes are harder to predict than cars on a track a monopod is useless. That worked well also. You rest in the brakes until the next group of planes arrive.

    In short: It is not an issue. For comparison: The 600mm Nikkor cannot be handled without a monopod; even while sitting down. Trust me, I tried. Too long and too heavy.

    What's also nice about the lens, it isn't that long, when stored and it has its own handle, so you don't carry the camera, but the lens with the body attached. While traveling I carry the lens in a "banana" pouch around my waiste with a wide angle on the D70. I don't bother with the container it comes with. Too bulky.
     
  3. Gemm

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    I do all day hand-held shooting with Canon 70-200 IS + 1.4x (which I believe weigh about the same as the Bigma) (+ a big camera) and there's no problem. You might suffer from some muscle pain for a few days but you'll soon get used to it. ;-)
     
  4. tifosi12

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    #29 tifosi12, Apr 16, 2006
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    Here some more pics from last year's Canadian GP and from an air show. None of these pictures have been cropped. What you see is what I got. No monopod, all free hand. However with varioud ASA settings (the last pic of the plane looks like I used 1600 ASA).

    Gemm: Your shots in post #21 are absolutely stunning. Fantastic job! I should use the Dutch angle more often.
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  5. ItaliaF1

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    With my D50, I use the 70-300mm ED lens for shots when I need to zoom in. It is a lot better than the 70-300mm G lens. I got mine for total price(with tax) of $404 at Wolf Camera. It has been great for me. I will be using it at the USGP this year and maybe a Ferrari Challenge event. PM me for more info.
     
  6. Whisky

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    I meant beyond motorsports. I don't know of anyone that uses it for NBA or NHL games, or to a lessor extent, college or pro football. I also have to qualify that by saying I have not talked to many folks about it in 3-4 years, maybe the stuff is better now. It won't work on the current motorsports I shoot because I am too close, all I use now is an 85 or sometimes a 105.
    You still need to check shutter speed, so you don't 'stop' wheels, or propellars, but those are good pics, nice composure.
     
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    #32 tifosi12, Apr 16, 2006
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    Thanks. I know. I hate it when the propellers freeze. My mistake of course.

    I believe you when you say AF is not fast enough for NFL etc. Luckily racecars normally move more predictably.

    A couple more from the Canada hairpin, uncropped.
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    Whisky Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I've done the same thing, with planes and helocopters, you don't even notice it when you are shooting them.
    Same with boats - do you want to stop the waves/splashes, or not....
     
  9. speedy_sam

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    #34 speedy_sam, Apr 17, 2006
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    OK I bought a lens today after a sleepless night of deciding what to buy and reviewing a couple sites for suitable lenses.

    I went to the store and tried out the Sigma 70-200 F2.8 and Nikon 80-200 F2.8. The Nikon 70-200 F2.8 was way beyond my budget.

    So after playing around the Sigma and the Nikon for a few minutes and changing my mind 10 times along the way, I picked the Sigma - it was about $200 cheaper and had a slightly faster autofocus. I am sure the Nikon lens may be a tad ahead on quality but I should be OK with the Sigma - read great reviews on it.

    I guess I will use this for medium range shots and will later buy the Sigma 50-500 for the long range shots.

    The 70-200 is big but not as heavy as I expected - a monopod/tripod is not that essential. Good exercise for me also. :)

    Thanks for your help gentleman. Until the next purchase ... Adios :)

    Here are three pics:

    1. Flower from about 10 feet away with the lens set at 200mm and shutter at 1/1000 - nice picture isolation (bokeh?)
    2. Top of the tree about 30 feet up with the lens shooting virtually straight up - the camera/lens combo was not shaking too much though I had to jam my left elbow into my body to steady it a bit
    3. My backyard

    I was looking for a bird or something to check the autofocus on but couldnt find any - they must be publicity shy ... aargh
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