Need an ignition switch. Anyone?

Instead of paying a few hundred bucks for a used one --- or several hundred for a new one from Ferrari --- try taking the entire mechanical assembly off the car (easy to do on the 308) and into a good local locksmith. You may be amazed at what they can do for $30 (psssst.....do NOT tell them it is "Ferrari" though ).

 

You have to remove the lock anyway even if you found a new one. Take it out, take it to a locksmith, and pray.

 

Yes, the above posts are the correct procedure..

It comes out as an assembly, the steering column rod with it.

Once out there is a small pin, painted over, they will punch this out to free the pin/spring/cylinder subassembly.

once that is dismantled, the fix is "another day at the office" for a safe or lock repair place.

 

The lock assembly has been NLA for years, decades even, it was 15 years ago I lost the set of keys to #22127, and learned "the deal"..

I think salvage, the assembly is about $2K USD....

 

Can you post a pix of what bits you need?

 

see this thread

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/308-328/327351-original-ignition-steering-lock-cylinders.html

 

When my ignition "failed" sometime 2 years ago, I was quoted 3k for an OEM. Fortunately, my (independent) mechanic cleaned all the contact points and less than $300 (including other works) later, it worked again.

 

If you broke it in the ignition I assume it's in the "off" position. Superglue the stub to the key piece in the ignition, you may be able to pull the broken piece out enough to grab it with a plyer.

 

Sounds like he already tried to fish out the broken key stub, and in the process, mangled things up pretty good to the point where some pieces are badly damaged.

Trygve --- if you post some pics of the unit so the damaged parts can be identified, then someone on here may have useable pieces from an assembly that they would be willing to part out to you.

But, replacing the entire assembly with a good used one is going to be next impossible ---- as there are few if any available anywhere, and they will be spendy.

If you really do want the whole assembly, I would recommend this as your best option ---- there are a few "breakers" in the UK that part out Ferraris and likely can sell you a complete assembly. Try posting this request in the UK section here on the site, and I am sure some kind chap will direct you to getting in contact with them.

There are also a few breakers here in the States (T Rutlands, FerrParts, etc.) that could also have one, but the shipping from US to Norway would likely make that a more expensive alternative to sourcing one from the UK.

 

BTW ---

For a NEW one, it appears the assembly has been superceded, and is available again from T Rutlands for a "mere" $1,300.

Ferrari Parts : 168785 : 168785 IGN/ANTITHEFT SWITCH - T. Rutlands

 

Some F-chatter will be able to do more with this.

Is the chrome part of your ignition switch damaged? Do you have another ignition key for the car? If so, you may be able to set up the new ignition lock cylinder to the key you have.

 

I've been here twice.
The lock/cylinder is probably not the culprit, so don't mess with it quite yet. You may find that the black plastic ignition module on the back side of the switch is either broken/melted/or worn out. If you remove the two machine screws that secure the module and remove it you will see the remains of your key sticking out. push/pull the key straight out. Now you will find that you MUST replace the module. That's what grabs the key and holds it in the lock cylinder. It's a BMW part from the 2002 series Bimmers.<>$100USD. The BMW parts counter has them, or can order them. It is of SWF manufacture...German. Do not opt for the Chinese one. The key blanks are ILCO brand. Volvos, and others. Very common and cheap, and much stronger than the OE. If you don't replace the module, this will happen over, and over again until you d (See my very first sentence). Also, see the posts in the 400 forum on this. I hope that this is of some help to you, Thank you. Jq.

 

I had one of those disintegrate before, so that makes perfect sense. If you do need the lock cylinder, sounds like a bigger pain. Do you suspect you need the front chrome piece as the key is broken off and still stuck inside??

 

@ OP ---

I am still a bit confused about which parts of the switch assembly you need, but I have this part (used OEM). If it is what you need, send me a PM. For that matter, anyone else as well if you need it.
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Hello.. in my 328, I have no problem with inserting the ignition key, slightly baulky turning cylinder over... but have to jiggle it aggressively to get it to last turn to engage the starter...

I sprayed "lock smith grade" cleaner and got lots of dark material (previous owner must have used dry graphite)....

Now everything is about same, meaning key goes in, still but scratchy but turns over for all the accessory lights to come on on dashboard, but can no longer turn it to last bit of turn to start the car... is this cylinder lock or rear switch issue?.

 

Damn, how does that sort of damage even happen? Looks like someone tried to steal it with a screwdriver.

 

It sounds like the lock portion is worn out, but you should check the function of the electrical portion (switch) as well. You can unscrew the switch from the rear of the lock and use a screwdriver to turn it in order to check the switch.

 

Tryg.....If you saw my post that 2dinos kindly referred to, then definately the black electronic module is the proper starting point. remove the module visa vi the two machine screws, making note of the wiring. The module will come right off and you will see the burnt/worn out teeth. Oh, and since it is Christmas season, I have a gift for you ...If you broke the key off in the lock, the key stub is stuck in the module and will pull straight out, Then you only need the locksmith to make a new key. Have a very pleasant New Year's eve, as you are already celebrating in the glow of the Northern Lights. Tak. I hope that this is of some help. Jq.