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cls · Mar 7, 2017

Juice It said: ↑

At a minimum he has an issue evading sales tax and titling the car from md to California so he could sell to you with a clear title and the spot he signed on the back of the md title assignment is incorrect. Looking at mileage has the car not been driven since 02?
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Called title jumping. The California B of E would likely be interested.

Ducman491 · Mar 7, 2017

In before this thread disappears like the blue & red 355 sale thread.

davemqv · Mar 7, 2017

Russ, just curious - is this to do with the black/crema GTS you bought recently? Or did you buy another car as well?

ricmat · Apr 4, 2017

He tried to sell a car on BaT a few months ago. Super messy discussion. Car wasn't as advertised, etc then he started saying people would get sued

Good lord.. this guy has a messy life

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etip · Apr 4, 2017

It's Ross said: ↑

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferrari-discussion-not-model-specific/513274-warning-fraud-ferrari-sales-kristof-schoffling-marc-pickardt-zffzr52b000124130.html
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I'm confused, is Excellzor Z the guy ripping people off or are the people noted in his thread?
what a circus sideshow.

hleshot · Dec 5, 2018

update?

dm_n_stuff · Dec 5, 2018

continuing saga in this thread, here's post #1...

Russ Gould said: ↑

I met Bob Norwood in mid 2016 when I looked at a car (well actually a pile of parts) he was selling. Due to a misunderstanding regarding the selling price that discussion ended. I recall Norwood and his crew spending a lot of time badmouthing a prior customer's car (a “Carpenter car” ie a 288 conversion done by his nemesis and then sent to him for further work).

We had a further discussion by phone regarding a 328 that was for sale in Florida, but after looking at the car in the flesh as well as having it inspected by a shop in FL, I passed.

In January 2017 I purchased a “project” 288 GTO tribute car with the intent of completing the conversion and installing the included 355 drivetrain.

So the first real chapter of my “Norwood Experience” began when I had the vehicle and associated parts delivered to Norwood Autocraft in early Feb 2017. The vehicle is a 308 GTSi with 288 GTO bodywork mounted by others, plus a loose 355 drivetrain, the 355 ECUs and wiring harnesses, a set of Speedline Mistral wheels and some other loose parts. Norwood was asked to quote the necessary mechanical and electrical work to complete the project. It took more than 2 months to obtain the title so in the interim the car was at Norwood's for evaluation and estimates.

Around the time the vehicle was delivered, I wired Norwood $5K to pay the transporter, the balance to be applied to the work when we got to that point. Big Red sent me a list of parts they noted missing when the vehicle was delivered, as well as some damage to the vehicle supposedly caused in transit, but according to the transporter, the damage occurred when Norwood and his gang unloaded the vehicle.

I visited his premises shortly after the car was delivered and was told right off the bat to take the 355 ECUs and associated wiring harnesses home, as he would not be using them. I explained that we could not do any work until I had the title, but that I needed estimates from him in the interim. He told me that the bodywork was reasonably straight, unlike the other “Carpenter car” he had worked on. Bodywork aside, the car was in worse shape than I was led to believe. Among other things, the “Ferrari” Speedline wheels had the wrong bolt pattern, with only the fronts on the car secured by one lug bolt each behind the center caps; the rears were not mounted at all, as the rear chassis had been cut out and discarded. The car arrived on a set of casters where the rear wheels should have been. The rear suspension corners were supplied loose without shocks/springs or torsion bar, and with only one half shaft. The front bumper lights turned out to be lenses only, stuffed into the bumper openings for purposes of photographing the car. Several other parts were missing including the wheelhouses, much of the interior controls and trim, one heater box, and pretty much anything with a horsie on it.

Shortly thereafter, Norwood provided estimates to do the mechanical and electrical work. He later revised the parts estimate as he missed some stuff the first time. After I got over the fact that the seller had pulled the wool over my eyes, I was happy that the estimates seemed very reasonable at around $25K, split $13K for labor and $12K for parts. I feared that given the missing parts and the condition of the car, the project would not be feasible and I would have to sell it on or part it out. But Bob convinced me that I would be all done at around $100K including paint and interior, and that I would come out with my head above water. Little did I know that a whole herd of sheep had to be sheared to provide the second pile of wool that was being pulled over my eyes by my new friend.

While we were waiting for the title, Norwood sent me the first invoice also attached. There were a lot of charges for the Florida 328 car on the invoice which surprised me as I didn't think I was going to get a fat bill for a couple of phone conversations about the car. When I expressed surprise that I was being billed for that aborted project he removed all the charges bar one, which to this day he stubbornly refuses to remove. Anyway the invoice was revised and the revised version is also attached. There went half of my $5K. All I had to show for it was the relocation of the car and a couple of estimates. These later proved to be worth less than the paper they were written on.

Chapter 2 to come.
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WJGESQ · Dec 7, 2018

cmt6891 said: ↑

YES !! Here we go again...dishonest is too kind of a description.
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That was the best thread ever.

Smiles · Dec 8, 2018

hleshot said: ↑

update?
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First post necromancer.

Matt

emac · Feb 12, 2022

some people just suck.

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