Need help deciding on 612 purchase.

OK, I'll state it better, trust the dealer but verify.

 

Would there be any advantage purchasing a 2007 612 60th Anniversary Edition over a non-anniversary edition. Found a clean low mileage one but still pricey at $125,000.00. Supposedly only 60 were built and badged. Thank you for your thoughts

 

I have an 09 OTO and when I compared my car to a sessanta I remember thinking my car was "better". I don't remember why though. so id def get a sessanta over an 05 to 07 non OTO but an 08+ OTO might be "better" than the sessanta

 

Sessanta and OTO are virtually identical, except for Tailor Made treatment on the Sessantas.

 

mmmh cld it be the f1 was quicker in the OTO than the sessanta? maybe not - I cant remember what the difference was. it was subtle

 

well the OTO has upgraded brakes, suspension, F1, audio, brakes and exhaust. Also the panorama roof and I think the seats might be different.
so to me the pre OTO and OTO are 2 different cars. I went OTO and wld again today.

 

the OTO F1 is very fast

 

And manettino.

 

So does the Sessanta, including the manettino. The CCM brakes on the OTO have been optional since Motronic 7.3.2 was introduced in the 2005 timeframe. They just became standard on the OTO. No change in suspension except for the HGTS/HGTC/HGT2 models, which have stiffer springs, rear anti-rollbar, shock ECU. All the 612s got new Motronic ECUs and shock ECUs when Motronic 7.3.2 was updated about the time the Sessanta came out.

Not sure about audio, since I never look at that.

The Sessantas were OTO prototypes.

 

could and where any 612 OTO's ordered 6-sp manual? ANY manual after '07 ? Same with HGTC pkg. on OTO ?

Ideal 612 (imho) would be Dom's 575m configuration. Thanks,

Jack

 

Love my 612, but if I had to do over and found a good one I'd go with an OTO. Glass roof, plus all the stuff others talked about

 

Jack- No manuals for the OTO. Too expensive to do with the new clutch and gearbox case. There were manual 07s. Not sure when they stopped doing that, but it may have been when 7.3.2 was updated in mid-late 07 and it would have taken a separate set of Motronic DMEs for the three pedal cars.

The HGTS/HGTC package was available on the initial 7.3.2 612s. When it was updated in 2007 the new package was called HGT2 and it was available on pre-OTO and OTO 612s. In late 07/early 08, CCMs and HGT2 were separate options. OTOs had standard CCMs.

 

Nice looking 612. And trust but verify. I would never buy a car again without a PPI, and not only a PPI but one from someone who is an expert in the car I am buying.

Once bitten twice shy...

Car looks great though (and 430 completely different animal IMHO)

 

the 430 scud is a juiced up version of the 430

 

FM, when ttforcefed said the OTO is faster, I believe he was referring to the F1 transmission, not the acceleration. And yes, the OTO is preferred by most people.

 

The one super important difference in my mind with the increase in transmission speed is how fast you can get going in 1st. In terms of driveability, the faster you're in first, the sooner you can pull out in traffic or accelerate from a stop light. That's probably the only thing that bugs me about the older F1, it's an opportunity cost pulling out faster as you get more slip.

 

yup thanks for clarifying

 

Good points.

Even if your working with a dealer on a used Ferrari, it is worth getting a 3rd party independent certified mechanic to look at the car, if possible.

 

I think I know which car you are speaking about (black on black?) I flew out and saw that car. its nice but I thought it was overpriced at 119. I have no idea why they raised it to 125??

It is not a sessanta. It has the 60th anniversary badge on the dash like all 2007 cars. I have no idea why they put the anniversary thing in their ad. They had no idea anything about the car. They aren't a Ferrari dealer obviously. They didn't even know they stopped making this model of car when I told them.

As I said the car is really nice though. I offered them something more in line with what the car should be priced at and they would not take 1 cent less than the 119.9 the car was listed at. They said they priced it at the market, no matter what I told them other ones were listed and selling at. I was willing to buy it until my flight left a few hours later but they wouldn't budge, then I bought the 2008 non OTO I had my eye on for less money later that day.

 

Thanks Taz; so if want manual/gated....best would be late '07 with HGT2 otherwise oto w/standard CCM & optioned HGT2; if get lucky with colors you like.

Jack

 

Jack- I do not think there are any HGT2 612s with three pedals. Seems like Ferrari stopped with three pedals when they updated 7.3.2 in mid-late 07. But I am not 100% sure.

 

I have tried to find a three pedal HGT2 but have not had any luck.