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Need Some info on a COMPETIZIONE 348

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  1. VTChris

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    #1 VTChris, Oct 24, 2005
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  2. VTChris

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    How can I find a value?
    I don't have Cavallino mag
     
  3. lusso64

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    Chris,

    Is this car for sale? I'd love one of these, although I'd be very happy with a "less-than-pristine" example. So long as it can be registered in CA.

    Dave
     
  4. VTChris

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    I just don't know what to offer...
    love it though
     
  5. Dr.T348

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    There is one on e-bay.
     
  6. Chiaro_Slag

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    The one pictured is the one on Ebay.

    Don't think this car was offerred in the US. So finding a price might be difficult. Maybe our brothers over the pond has some input on pricing?

    Car is also not street legal.
     
  7. Llenroc

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    If I remember correctly Ferrari of atlanta had one a few years ago. I think they were asking 140,000.00 at the time. I also thought that they weren't US street legal, if you notice the rear bumper there are no side marker lights and seat belts are not up to US specs. Also no third blake light on the engine cover and the roll cage is a no no with the feds.
     
  8. Chiaro_Slag

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    #9 Chiaro_Slag, Oct 24, 2005
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    http://www.qv500.com/ferrari348p9.php

    I would like to see the original rims on the car!! :D

    In late 1993, Ferrari began producing their first homologation special since the 288 GTO. Based on the standard 348 GT, at least 50 had to be built so a more extreme 348 could qualify for the GT3 class of international endurance racing. Designated the GT Competizione and often referred to as GTC, it was Ferrari's last 348 road car and featured the hottest specification of all. With much stiffer suspension, its track-derived set up had an uncompromising nature, all Competizione's using the high output Tipo F119H engines with 320bhp.

    The doors, sills and bumpers were made from a mixture of super lightweight Kevlar and carbon fibre composite, polished 17-inch split rim Speedline wheels having been unique to this version. Enamelled Scuderia Ferrari wing shields aped the 288 GTO and F40, otherwise just discreet GT Competizione scripting giving the game away. More radical changes were made inside where Kevlar sill panels, lightweight door trim and cloth-trimmed Kevlar racing seats came fitted as standard. All the carpeting was removed from the passenger wells, these cars weighing in considerably lighter than the stock GT. There were also drilled aluminium pedals and a steering wheel inscribed with each cars serial number. Produced into the middle of 1994, only 56 were made, eight of which were right-hand drive.
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  9. Kevallino

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    Also strange that the ebay car is a ts with all that stuff...cool car but can someone confirm that they made the competizione in a pop-top?

    Cheers
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  10. No Doubt

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    Did you see the engine and the "TS" (not "GTC") factory plate on that eBay car?

    Also, that eBay car has all of the grates on the side and rear...which I thought would have been removed on the GTC's.
     
  11. Chiaro_Slag

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    Check out the pics here :

    http://www.qv500.com/ferrari348p9.php

    Looks like all the grates remain.
     
  12. Llenroc

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    FWIW there is great article on the 348 comp. in Auto Italia Magazine, April 1999. I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that the car pictured here isn't a factory comp car, the steering wheel isn't correct the wheels are not correct. The factory cars had the same interior as std. car except for the seats and steering wheel. there was not a roll cage or a rear tow hook in/on them either. I'm bassing my opinion on the article in Auto Italia. Could this be a euro challenge car thats been modified? Regards, Vern
     
  13. VTChris

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    wants 160k for this car....
    Not willing to go that high, would jump on a nice 360 for that much $Jangy$
     
  14. FarmerDave

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    I was wondering the same thing, kind of odd that a competition car would have a targa top...
     
  15. BigTex

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    A real one at FoA, they wanted around $160K for it....NICE CAR!

    Dunno about legality but it's be GREAT after dark, you know?

    I'd want Factory Paper on a TS, THAT part don't sound right at all, but homogulation isn't my bag......
     
  16. lusso64

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    Yikes! I just want an old track car that's been beaten up! Given that 355 and 360 Challenegs are significantly cheaper than their road counterparts, I am hoping (not greatly) to find something in the 30's. I may have to register it in Mexico, but that is no great problem.....
     
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  18. Chiaro_Slag

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    That's a lot of coin for that car.....

    2 of those or an F40?? Hmmm, I think I know my answer.
     
  19. FarmerDave

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    The Vinplate is shown in the Ebay auction, but they didn't turn the flash off so the S/N digits are washed out. Doesn't matter, it's definitely a Euro car. I decoded the first digits of the VIN using Edvar's red-headed.com page.

    Also found pics, (taken by Edvar?) of a meet in Japan where there are alot of "Modded" 348's.
    http://community.webshots.com/album/361649258FbXmQG/3 There's plenty of 348 TS cars that have been modded to look like competition cars.

    The headlights appear to match pictures of the 2 Michellotto 348 GT/C-LM cars that raced at LeMans.


    My guess is that this is a Euro 348ts that was at some point modded to look like a clone of the 348 GT/C-LM.
     
  20. Llenroc

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    Just a few more thougths on this car. After studing the pics on ebay and comparing them to the car pictured in Auto Italia some conclusions come to mind. The ebay car has the correct seats, enamal fender badge,sill plates are the correct carbon pieces and rear badge is correct. I know these could be added but Ferrari is known to ask for serial nos. to authenticate the car these parts are going on needing it to be an original example of the 50 comp cars (I had to supply Ferrari with my serial no on my 348SS to get a new front spoiler lip). Also the Serial no. of the car fits the range in which the 50 cars were produced (according to Keith Blummels Book on V8s) The only odd thing I can see is the car is a TS and the engine plemums are not larger ones that would be on this car. This could be a heavely modified 348 comp. car(wheels,brakes, roll cage, door panels, head lights, tow hooks, challenge light covers, hood pins etc.) that someone spent a lot of money on. An interesting car but, I would agree way to much for what it is, a 355 or 360 challenge would be money better spent Regards, Vern
     
  21. Kevallino

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    The only 348 I would pay $160K for was that one they used as a mule for the Enzo engine.

    There would need to be some spectacular documentation on that ebay car from day one.

    Cheers
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  22. FarmerDave

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    From the NW FCA website:

    Apparently there WERE Targa topped 348 TS Challenge cars.

    So maybe this was a factory challenge car that was modified even further?
     
  23. FarmerDave

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    #24 FarmerDave, Oct 25, 2005
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    For the record, and because that car won't be listed on Ebay forever, here's the info, and some pictures from the ebay auction.

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  24. Llenroc

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    There were a few "targas" raced in the series, I have some pics that were in Cavallino showing them on the track. If I remember correctly though, they were early dealer converted cars. That's one of the reasons why I think this car on ebay is one of the 50 "street" comp. cars built for the Euro market (simimlar concept to the US 348 SS this was Ferraris SS for the Euro market & different from the "race" comp. cars). I think they must have built some S versions of that "street" comp. model too, as they did with the '94 Challenge car and the US 348SS. This car must be a modified 348 "street" comp. car. Anyway interesting situation. Regards, Vern
     

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