Need VIN-specific MSRP documentation on Ferrari letterhead

Your dealer may not have been in operation in 1986 so you might find it easier to call FNA straight off

 

I dont know if this will help your situation......Here is a scanned image of the original bill of sale for my 1986 Mondial 3.2, sold at Ferrari of Los Gatos, California in 1986. The previous owner had a pile of paperwork and garage receipts and this was in it. Needless to say, I saved everything.

Have you thought about the Montana registration concept. You only need to create a business corporation within Montana and you can then register your vehicle. From my understanding there is no sales tax and registration is modest. Hope this helps!

 

Call your nearest graphic designer and have them whip up something for you. You decide how honest you want to be with the number. Going through Ferrari will be an exercise in frustration and nobody will be paying you for your time either.

 

It will take some digging but I got a reproduction window sticker made for my car. Has the serial number and everything. I didn't need it for anything other than putting it under the wiper at a show and people reacting to a 65,000 dollar 1985 car. It was done by some one here. If you need I can try to look back on who did it. Good luck

 

California bases it on what you paid for the used car, so no sympathy here. So are you saying that an F50 would only be taxed at ten percent of original sticker?! Dang. That’s better than being based on the three million purchase price of the used car.

 

I’m considered a fool or worse for following the rules on my over 70 cars here in California. I think it is wrong to not follow the law but am viewed by most car collectors as an idiot for not setting up bogus fronts to reduce heinous and unfair registration and sales tax fees imposed by this state.

It would be one thing if the entire nation had such draconian rules, but for there to be a 99% difference in sales tax and registration fees between say California and Florida is just disgusting. I literally have paid millions of dollars more to have the identical collection than someone living in Florida. And ongoing registration fees more than $250,000 higher.

My dealer even joked that I was the only person in California that paid sales tax on their Chiron.

 

I sympathize. It sucks. Congrats on the Chiron though!

Whaddaya doing in the lowly "Mondial" forum?

 

Wouldn't NADA have it? Virginia relies on NADA for their valuing of cars.

 

I have a friend who knows someone with some graphic experience and can help...

 

Joe,
For your first registration you'd pay sales tax on what you paid for it at the time of registration. However past that, it would be based on the state's value assessment.

BUT, why worry about paying yearly fees? Register it with a Year of Manufature (YoM) plate or a collector car plate and you only pay once and never again.

The cars has to be 30 years old to do this and NOT be your daily driver. Both my X1/9s, my 400i, my Alfa Spider and soon to be my 348 are all done this way.

So hit eBay and start looking for a really nice 1986 plate. The 1986 plate would look like this, similar to the earlier plate where the Washington is embossed into the plate, but it is flat and reflective.

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They won't allow you to use the later one (like on my 88 Spider below) or an earlier one (like on my 82 X1/9 below).

On my X I run a really nice 1982 plate and my Spider has a 1988 plate.

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Here's a decent one for a good price. You can re-do the month and year stickers--a few sellers sell real and reproduction stickers.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133637979769

 

Millions for 70 cars ? that's crazy. Since I'm french I'm completely stranger to those taxes

For exemple, in cali, what will it cost (Roughly) for a regular production brand new Ferrari, let's say a 812 ?

 

9.5% sales tax upon purchase, 0.45% per year registration fee. So about $50k tax on sale and $2,500 per year registration. But for a used Enzo? $300,000 on sale, $15,000 per year registration fees.

But being French, I was just reading the current Evo magazine about how carbon taxes are now so high in French, Renault cannot even build a sporty coupe. A forty thousand car can have twenty thousand carbon emissions tax penalty in France. Even California has not invoked that. Yet.

 

Thanks. Considering your fleet, if you move to another state, California will get bankrupt the next day

 

$2500 / yr for registration? Holy Moly.

I pay $100 here in Tx -- and that includes a fee for a personalized plate. It'd be about $49 without the plate.

This is for my 85 Mondial.

It's about the same fee (minus the personalized plate fee) for my DD F150, my wifes DD X3, and her 85 MB 300D.

Sid

 

As mentioned, in Washington any car 30 years or older on a historic or YoM plate pays nothing per year.