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Discussion in '612/599' started by champagne612, Aug 12, 2010.

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  1. champagne612

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    #1 champagne612, Aug 12, 2010
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  2. coupe1

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    surprised to see a air intake above the rear hunches.. would have thought we had seen
    the last of these with the new designs on the 458. Size doesnt look 612 or 599 though..
     
  3. champagne612

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    Your'e probably correct, unless it was a early sketch. If the 599 went to a rear engine the rear hunches may be necessary to cool the twelve cylinders.
     
  4. 430rcks

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    Why would it have the intakes in the back if it's a front engined car?

    Maybe for downforce or some brake cooling system?
     
  5. tazandjan

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    Jay- Maranellos have one on the port side for the transaxle cooler. Not that big, though.

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  6. DeSoto

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    That was a design concept made by a University or a design school or something like that. It already is a few years old and it´s not even made by Ferrari or Pininfarina, so I guess that the new 612 won´t look like that.
     
  7. champagne612

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    Fair enough - as the door hardly lends itself to a 4 seater. The rear does lend itself to a hatch in the rear.
     
  8. Scuderia980

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    based on the info so far..ie long headlights ala 458...possible hatch rear...there is a great chance that this is the 612 replacement..we can guess what it looks like underneath:)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qbuiw9vkeQ
     
  9. Tifosi15

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    This was a "Dino" concept design done a few years ago by Ugur Sahin. Check iTunes, it was in several of the video podcasts, search Ferrari Concept
     
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    Seems like it could still be a bit small when you remove all of the body panel camoflauge, but who knows. IMO it looks like it has the same exact headlights as the 458 Italia, so maybe it is something, but it could be used to just test different applications that could appear on the 612 as you said, AWD, etc..
     
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    For what one pays for the current 612 it is under powered and Lacks the sex appeal of it's siblings
    Let's hope they correct these deficiencies otherwise it will fail again
     
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    underpowered is not a word that comes to mind when i compare the 612 to others ferraris...
     
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    I said for what one PAYS it is under powered I expected more for my money
     
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    all relative i guess... i like my 612 way more than my CGT
     
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    Wow you do love the 612.Since your a big fan wouldn't an extra 80hp make you a tad happier
     
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    #20 ryalex, Sep 17, 2010
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    They should have done an 612M refresh with some updated body panels*, tweaked interior and the 599 engine.



    *Especially the tail area, trunk lid, etc. Needs more shape and edges. Frankly, the tail should have been what the Alfa 8C came out with...
     
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    Ryan- The 2008 OTO was the mid-model update. 599 clutch, new gearbox, mildly souped up engine, mannetino, Superfast F1 system, cosmetic changes. The 612 replacement will have many more updates and an architecture one generation ahead of the 599, likely to include direct injection and dual clutch. Should be a real mover.

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  22. F2003-GA

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    Since the 612 is such a failure I think their going for an all out replacement
     
  23. joba

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    Does anyone believe that there is a possibility of a future 612 convertible? I can see myself growing out of the 430 spider with age. The bentley GTC is a great car, just a little large. The Maserati Gran Turismo is nice ,but its just not a Ferrari. I think it would be a great family all purpose specialty car.
     
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    dreamed about before... some relevant links...

    Michiel's work...
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    #25 tazandjan, Sep 18, 2010
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    Jas- The 612 was not a failure and I can guarantee Ferrari made money on every one they sold to hundreds of happy owners. Most of the development costs went into a new longer wheelbase chassis with updated suspension (used on the 599) and a modern cabin, since the early drivetrains were adopted from the 575M. The 612 was an evolutionary success and the drivetrain will be the target for the 612 replacement.

    Maserati is having great success with their four seat convertible, so who knows?

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