[QUOTE It's beyond me why ADDCO couldn't simply copy an OEM front bar at a larger diameter, but that seems to be the case. Matt[/QUOTE] +1
I can't figure out the difficulty either... The 2nd? version is the best fitting so far but only if your using aftermarket coil-overs and not the stock shocks as they would be to big in dia for clearance. The last or 3rd version was splayed out way to far, no possible way to make it work.
After a year and a half.... Took Mike T. ~month to have a builder make a set. Not adjustable, but still... A year and a half and they couldn't get it... wow. No effort on their part.
What's this about Mike T.'s custom set? How much, and can we all get the same? Seems like if one only wanted the increased strength/diameter and wanted to keep the neutral handling balance, the adjustability wouldn't matter so much, no?
You are right, adjustability really matters to people that will be trying different spring rates, dampers, and tire widths; and it seems the only way to have any adjustable bar is to have an aftermarket, smaller diameter, coil-over. My suspension is still waiting on parts, so Wade has time before he puts it back together; I've emailed John at ADDCO so we will see what he says. I'd be fine with a non-adjustable bar.
As you may remember or not I had a set if these put on by Mr Newman while doing a R&R of the suspension. He was able to make the front work by losing the adjustability (shortened the tips). The car is flat around the bends. Compared with "before" it pretty dramatically changed the amount of roll. I don't track the car so it's less critical but I can't imagine changing a thing if I did. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
But the trade off is on uneven roads in theory. Especially on potholes in the middle of bends. The wheel is prevented from following the surface. Is there any noticeable trade-off? I cant imagine Ferrari fitting the wrong stiffness for road use.
Well where I live all the roads are uneven. I can only give a subjective evaluation and I like the change, I feel more confident driving a bit more aggressively thru the twistys and the car just feels better, less mushy, more predictable. But, I also had the bushings and shocks redone so I am sure this contributed as well. Bottom line, my old swaybars are for sale. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
No replies from my emails, I emailed technical and sales. I am calling them tomorrow. Have you heard anything?
Nothing heard since receiving mine. They never responded to my emails but on a couple occasions both Paul and I spoke to them by phone (best bet).
I haven't been following this thread recently, but I think mike is using a custom rear bar. I sold mike the 25mm front bar. It is a Saner bar. The rear bar of the saner set is 7/8th or 22mm. I found that with the 25/22mm bars, 400 pound front and 350 rear springs on QA-1s that the car had more understeer than stock and I could not adjust it out, it still had too much front roll stiffness. To be fair, I am running 9 inch rear wheels with 255/35 goodyears and 7.5 inch x 18 360rims on the front with 225/40 goodyears, (now direzzionales). If I had smaller rear tires and less front spring, I may have been able to get a balance with the 25/22 mm bars. Quite some time ago, I purchased a 22 front bar, (l don't know where it was made, but it looks just like a saner bar). With 22 mm front and rear, I can find the right adjusted balance. So, I was able to get a very neutral balance with that chassis set up and am very happy at thunderhill. If you think you might want to track the car, go for the adjustable bars. You can change springs to adjust the balance, but it takes a lot of work, you have to re-corner weight the car, realign, compared to unbolting and rebolting the drop link on the bar. I don't believe saner is making bars anymore. It took a pile of cash and about 5-6 months to actually receive the bars, I have heard this story before and one member here tried to order several sets from saner and I think he got stiffed, (IIRC). If you are not going to push the car hard enough to drift or slide through the turns, then you will probably be ok with the 25-22mm bars YMMV, depending on chassis set up. The close up of the saner set up to try to get the drop link vertical, (& not bound)shows the thin black sleeve spacer, (the bar was too narrow). Also notice that even with carefull tightening, that the sleeve is starting to bell mouth out. I made repeated calls for the correct torque and got zip. The next photo shows one of our fine posters solution to the need for a spacer by turning a beveled chunk of steel to try to get the link vertical. Notice, even with the spacer, the link is tipping out at the top. The last photo shows my cobbled together solution, involving a hefty nut and "safety washers" and a longer 12.9 allen bolt. The front tilt/binding was even worse. hth, chris Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I just posted my brand new set of these in the classifieds for anyone still looking: https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/308-addco-sway-bars-brand-new.650157/ I don't have a 308 and given that I think I'm going just stay with the Ferraris that I have, i probably won't get around to using these. Up for sale they go.
