New C8 testing at the Ring

I expect it to be generic when revealed - it’s a $60K Chevy.

 

I watched the video 3 times...where does the car look "unstable"?

 

I agree on weight, C5 Z under 3100, C6z around 3200, C7 3460 to almost 3700, it makes a difference to some people. Me, I do notice weight on the track, having a GT350 Shelby exemplifies this for me, others say it loses some of that weight at speed, not me, it always feels like a big heavy car.....does it handle great for a big heavy car, sure. Just no comparison to the "feel" of my 360 or C6Z, even though the GT350 will run the 360 off the track...

I do think the ME Vette will weigh more than we would want, but many of the new cars do, safety/electronics/stereos, etc. mandated weigh items. I think the ME Vette will be on my list after a year or two, when bugs are worked out and the mark ups quiet down.

 

We agree on much. However Maclarenand ferrari to name two have managed to build cars that weight 2800-3100lbs with all the modern safety electronics etc. I think the Gt3 is 3100 and the GT4 around 3klbs. Sure the the ferrari and Maclren come in at a higher price point(Gt4 does not), but the ferrari and porche are not even a CF tub. If were comparing the new mid engined vette would I compare it to a 911 a 570s, thats the pormise, so the weight does matter. Sometimes its maybe like this car is 10 years too late, the others did overweight and overpowered a decade ago.

In my powderkeg I have 125-180k waiting for the next faster car to the fleet. For me any fast car besides a pure Gt or luxury car has to be able to run on track durably and competantly. My mind has been on the mooted GT4RS, under 3klbs mid engined and 450hp 9k revs etc. To me thats car to buy savor and keep for a lifetime.

Then I see a pic of the C8R and it gets me thinking, will it weight 3klbs with its 650hp Na quad cam v8, because such a car would be a no brainer, the performance step up would negate my thought that a vette is likely to be a less long haul car than a Gt4.

 

Ferrari and McLaren "managed" to build cars between 2800-3100 pounds for $300,000
Expecting a $70,000 Corvette to pull off the same trick is ridiculous.
And note that the FRONT ENGINE Ferraris (those closest to the C7 in design) are crowding 4,000 pounds (not bad...about $100/pound)

 

And porche built a GT3 for 140k and a GT4 for 85k. The Gt4 is I believe right around 3klbs.
The C5 and C6 weighed far less. IMO GM got lazy on the C7, weight went up due to this but they figured with more hp and better paper numbers the punters wouldnt know or care, something you ably amplify, so I dont expect different for the mid engined car..

If the mid engined car is supposed to be a bang for the buck ferrari killer, then yes weight is part of it, because now thats a reckognized performance metric. We also know ferrai makes $80k per car and the delalers similar wedge, so theyre really building it for 150k and restricting volume to to amp up margins, (something we should be glad vette is not doing).

In other ways we can compare the vette to a lotus evora. The both use metal frames and composite bodypanels, utilizing modified off the rack motors. Lotus with far less resources, less acess to engineerign departments or the dealer network and resultant volume etc makes the car for 100k and latterly a profit on far less volume in car weighting in at 3100lbs or 3000 depedning on spec.
So porche and Lotus to name two can make a powerful 3000lbs mid engined car in the price range or less.

Lastly yes the front engined ferraris which are really just luxury GTs weigh more than the front engined vette, so what, the mid engined vette is reputed to weigh more than the front engined one, and thats the salient point.

 

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360 mates with an aventador, derivative but nice, same as the C7 is way nicer than a F12.. Its not always who did a design first that counts but who did it best.

 

The C7 was the C6 meets the Gallardo.

 

Huh?

 

F12 nicer than C7. No question.

 

Side intakes are wrong, which in turn, throws off the rear fender/doors, IMO

 

Funny, Im not saying this to be difficult, but the side intakes are part of what make it for me.

 

To me, the side intakes kind of make it look two different cars were mated together. The front looks nice and slender, but the rear looks huge.

That said, I keep watching the Ring testing videos and am liking it more and more. The more I watch the videos, the more I can see the car through the camo. I think it's going to look better in color than I initially thought.

 

In that case, I think (!) you're going to be disappointed.

 

The front and rear made the C5 look like two cars glued together. So did the Tr in a way.
Still no reason for a non harmonious design, other than maybe competing comite interests.

Whether one likes his designs or not, there is no way that something as disharmonious as the C5 would have come out in Mitchells reign.

 

Yes I am preparing myself to be dissapointed, hopefully Im wrong, but I also know that with the corvette teams talent, what could be.

 

It was awkward leaving the carousel, but I think that was the driver, not the car.

Sounds like a pushrod V8, and no flat plane crank. Not really inspiring.

 

Base version, pushed v8 and softy suspension

 

Makes sense.

 

Thats some really amateur rendering so Im guessing not

Those are the ugliest side intakes Ive ever seen but they do match the camo cars. But my guess is, as mentioned above, its to distract from the real shape.

 

Except the C8R undisguised had the same shape intakes.
To me the C8R is a real looker, hope they make a street version like that.
The intakes on the renmderings are not quite correctly placed.