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New Cheating Scandal? Hmmmm....

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  1. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

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    At least Mercedes did that ! built the best car ! and put the best drive in it !
     
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  2. SimCity3

    SimCity3 F1 Rookie

    Try explaining all these constantly shifting and garbage rules to someone new to F1.

    They'll go straight back to football
    :D
     
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  3. SimCity3

    SimCity3 F1 Rookie

    Mercedes put an available driver in it.
    McLaren had just offered Lewis a pay reduction prior to him switching.

    Lewis is currently slightly faster than Bottas.
     
  4. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

    Nov 4, 2003
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    Is in not ironic that Lewis ended up with both more money and a faster car to drive ?

    Anyone care to speculate on why McLaren offered less money to a WDC ?
     
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  5. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Mclaren was offering Lewis 5m. He wasn't doing as well to Button as was expected of him.
     
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  6. GordonC

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    The FIA is hamstrung on an ERS investigation, because of their precedent kid gloves treatment of Ferrari on fuel suspicions last year. There were a couple of generic technical directives issued after Monza, and some of Ferrari's speed advantage disappeared - but Ferrari lost more power in the off-season when the FIA went in-depth on them specifically and came up with the secret agreement.

    So what can the FIA now do about ERS concerns? ALL they can do is issue a few generic technical directives, maybe add an additional sensor - but they can't penalize or punish, since they didn't penalize or punish Ferrari in any way in 2019 on fuel management concerns (No fines, no points deductions). Therefore - yawn. They're toothless by their own pliers.
     
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  7. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    I've been thinking about this, what can potential punishment be. Ferrari was told to stop doing what they're doing...and they did. That's all pretty clear now. So surely, this means any team doing the same thing right now, should at the very least expect their toy to be taken away? Potential of fines/taken away of race wins will be a court battle till the end of time. Take it off and be clever in another way.

    Problem now is...FIA is obviously aware that someone is doing it. FIA needs to act quickly now. If they let it simmer till end of season and said team wins a title because of it....?
     
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  8. jpalmito

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    Agree
    lots of race accidents with Massa.
    he did what pilots do when they feel compromised : mistakes

    Bar Alonso and Prost
     
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  9. SimCity3

    SimCity3 F1 Rookie


    Taking out Rosberg in Barcelona wasn't too hot either.
     
  10. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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    Race accident for me
     
  11. SimCity3

    SimCity3 F1 Rookie

    Lewis got the-rub-of-the-green there.

    Great result.
     
  12. SimCity3

    SimCity3 F1 Rookie

    Not according to Lauda
     
  13. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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    i know
     
  14. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    Not really, more often the cheating come form british teams.
     
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  15. bobzdar

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    That was in Rosberg tbh - he screwed up by putting his engine in the wrong mode so was going slower and tried to cut Hamilton off and make him go around the outside, but Hamilton had already moved at that point.
     
  16. SimCity3

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    Well Lauda told Hamilton off for that clumsy move.
    Worth watching the Lauda interview when he explains why it was Hamilton's fault
     
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  17. Igor Ound

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    If Button stayed put instead of switching for macca he would be probably 7 times wdc by now
     
  18. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    True...but that wouldn't mske him a better driver to me....just like it didn't for elton that made 85÷ of his winning after he joined merc.
     

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