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  1. Randy

    Randy Formula 3

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    #1 Randy, May 27, 2005
    I just purchased a 1972 365 GTB/4 VIN# 16553. Does anyone have old photos of this car or know anything about its history?
     
  2. vince308

    vince308 Formula 3

    May 23, 2003
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    #2 vince308, May 27, 2005
    I dont have pictures, but please, you can post one of your car to show us.

    greetings, vincent
     
  3. Tspringer

    Tspringer F1 Veteran

    Apr 11, 2002
    6,155
    #3 Tspringer, May 27, 2005
    Congrats!

    POST PICS!!!

    Give us some details of your car, the story behind the purchase and all the juicy tidbits!

    Where did you find it?

    Terry
     
  4. coachi

    coachi Formula 3

    May 1, 2002
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    #4 coachi, May 27, 2005
    would love to see it
     
  5. parkerfe

    parkerfe F1 World Champ

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    #5 parkerfe, May 27, 2005
    Check with Gerald Roush at 770.381.1993. He should have info on your cars past history.
     
  6. Randy

    Randy Formula 3

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    #6 Randy, May 27, 2005
    I would love to post pictures, but I haven't gotten the car yet. I bought it through the Car Experience, a car broker in Canada. The car should arive by Friday on next week. I've already registered it to be in a local car show on June 5. The car is reported to have a near perfect body and mechanicals, but that the interior need to be refreshed.

    I had been looking for one since March, but couldn't find one anywhere. this was the first one that was in good condition and that came with the books, tools and records and it had a 3 year old bare metal paint job (the funny thing is that I've now found 2 other cars that sound like they are in as good of condition, but are cheaper, oh well). The broker indicated that it is a U.S. car that spent most of its life in the Netherlands and in Toronto.

    I'll give you guys more scoop after I've had a chance to look at all of the records
     
  7. Horsefly

    Horsefly F1 Veteran

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    #7 Horsefly, May 27, 2005
    Pardon my ignorance, but isn't the time to research a car's history BEFORE you drop $100,000 or so on the purchase? I've researched bare Corvette frames and empty transmission cases before I made the deal just to make sure that I know what I'm buying. I can't imagine dropping 100 grand without tracking down all available history on the car in an attempt to guarantee 2 things: 1. that the car is genuine and not a rebuilt piece of junk, and
    2. that the car wasn't stolen 30 years ago in Europe.
     
  8. coachi

    coachi Formula 3

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    #8 coachi, May 28, 2005
    Gerald Rousch's book lists sn 16553 as a USA daytona on page 147. When I purchased my second daytona some years I ago, I wrote the Ferrari factory hoping to get information on my purchase. They did acertain that the car was a USA model, its orginal color, and who imported it. They even told me what type of wheels it had. You might want to write to them and ask about yours...and as suggested earlier, give Mr. Roush a call. He is the publisher of the FML, the biweekly guide to the Ferrari market.

    Don't fret about your purchase. I am sure you did well, and you will enjoy this car a lot. Just remember old cars are like a bad habit...you will find something wrong every day, every week, every month...but it will be a great source of satisfaction when you find the missing part and you make your car more perfect. Enjoy and sincere congratulations.
     
  9. coachi

    coachi Formula 3

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    #9 coachi, May 28, 2005
    Sorry I misspelled Mr Roush's name in the first paragraph above.
     
  10. TimRoper

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    #10 TimRoper, May 28, 2005
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    Randy Me too! Just purchased a datona chassis 14677. Its done a total of 37,000 miles and had a new engine 22,000 miles ago when it was rebuilt at Modena engineering here in the uk. Am in the process of having a new larini sports exhaust and manifolds fitted. There is another good forum for Daytonas at www.daytonaregistry.com, Bill is the technical guru. If I could bottle the smell of the interior in my car after a good run, I could sell it as perfume! See attached pics, look foreward to seeing yours.

    Safe Driving

    Tim
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  11. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #11 Napolis, May 28, 2005
    Nope.
    When I bought 0846 I thought it was "0003" . If I had researched it before I would have had to pay way more.
     
  12. Drew Altemara

    Drew Altemara Formula 3

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    #12 Drew Altemara, May 28, 2005
    Hii Randy,

    Congratulations on your purchase. I'm sure you can't wait till you get it.

    I sent you a private message. Check it when you get a chance. (top right grey box on screen).

    Regards,

    Drew Altemara
     
  13. El Wayne

    El Wayne F1 World Champ
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    #13 El Wayne, May 28, 2005
    Au contraire, mon frere. Alas, "it is not a 'market guide!'"
     
  14. pauls

    pauls Formula Junior

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    #14 pauls, May 28, 2005
    Hey Wayne!! Congrats also from me!! It's been a long time coming. I hope you will list your new Daytona with me at
    http://daytonaregistry.com/. Paul
     
  15. Randy

    Randy Formula 3

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    #15 Randy, May 28, 2005
    Horsefly -
    I did do a ton of research. The guy from the Car Expereince sent me 100s of pictures and even a video. It was inspected twice, a service was performed and there was a compression test done on the engine. I was also given a guarantee by The Car Expereince, who I think has a good reputation. I was just hoping someone on this site would have old pictures of it or know some unique history surrounding it. Further, these cars are selling quick. I've chased down a few over the last 3 months, only to have them bought from under me because I waited a day or 2.
     
  16. Randy

    Randy Formula 3

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    #16 Randy, May 29, 2005
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  17. jsa330

    jsa330 F1 World Champ
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    #17 jsa330, May 29, 2005
    I bought my 330 2+2 Fall/early Winter '02 the same way you bought your car, and it turned out just fine. It was the same situation--a lot of buyers with cash in hand for solid 330's and I was unable to travel at the time--had to get while the getting was good.

    By the way, Congratulations!!
     
  18. pauls

    pauls Formula Junior

    Apr 25, 2004
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    #18 pauls, May 29, 2005
    Randy, sorry I called you Wayne!?! Again congratulations!! You have a solid honest car by your thorough description of the car. Paul
     
  19. ClassicFerrari

    ClassicFerrari F1 World Champ
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    Jan 7, 2004
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    #19 ClassicFerrari, May 29, 2005

    That's Rock's Auto here in Toronto. If it was there, it's in good hands. ;)

    Enjoy in good health.

    Vasco
     
  20. Rock

    Rock Formula 3

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    #20 Rock, May 29, 2005
    Your correct Vasco. Thats our shop
     
  21. Randy

    Randy Formula 3

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    #21 Randy, May 29, 2005
    Rock, did you get a chance to view and test the car yourself? What did you think?
     
  22. ClassicFerrari

    ClassicFerrari F1 World Champ
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    #22 ClassicFerrari, May 29, 2005
    Randy, this world is sooo small aint it? LOL

    Enjoy your new f-car.

    Vasco
     
  23. staceman

    staceman Karting

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    #23 staceman, May 30, 2005
    Randy first of all you're fortunate to have found a Daytona. I haven't really seen any for sale in some time. With regards to your purchase some time ago another FChatter provided an excel worksheet with many Daytona s/n. This is what showed up on 16553. Hope it provides some clues for you. Note the color conversion. Good luck and congratulations.

    BURGANDY/TAN FOR SALE FML SO. CALIF Nov-84
    BURGANDY/TAN 39,000M. FOR SALE FML SAN DIEGO Oct-89
    BURGANDY/TAN 41,000M. FOR SALE FML EUROPE Dec-91
    RED/TAN (DRUG) GOVERNMENT AUCTION HOLLAND Jul-01
     
  24. evandaalen

    evandaalen Formula 3
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    Feb 7, 2004
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    #24 evandaalen, May 30, 2005
    This means that I have seen the car at that specific auction and that I should have some more information about it at home. The auction itself was related to the collection of Charles Zwolsman, which was seized by the Dutch government. After many, many years of legal actions related to drugs, the government sold a big part of the collection. I will check if I can find some additional information ...
     
  25. Randy

    Randy Formula 3

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    #25 Randy, May 30, 2005
    evandaalen,

    I would appreciate any info you have. thanks
     
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