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  1. Sinovac

    Sinovac Karting

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    Ferrari F40 isn't a good example of "avoided rampant speculation."

    Cars like the Ford GT have never been produced in large quantities. It's a homologation car. The number of homologation cars produced in quantities larger than the estimated GT production can probably be counted on one hand. These cars are a PITA for any manufacturer and the market is much smaller than you think. I bet that better than 80% of supercar buyers would hate the GT because it's too (insert whine here). It's hot, loud, has a sparse interior and lacks storage space for a murse.
     
  2. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    it's a European shoulder bag.

    ;)


    the 288 GTO (~275 built) and Porsche 959 (~350 built) are probably the best homologation comparisons to be made. but generally the number of examples built is a function of the sanctioning body's requirements, not necessarily a function of consumer demand.
     
  3. Sinovac

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    European shoulder bag/man purse/murse. Whatever. Ha

    Others can correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Ford is producing more cars than required for homologation purposes, so hats off to them for that.

    Ford isn’t in the business of making cars like this. It’s a huge and difficult undertaking for them. Many people within Ford stuck their necks way out to make this program happen. A larger production run was never going to happen. Multimatic has other customers.
     
  4. F1tommy

    F1tommy F1 World Champ
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    They probably don't make much on these specials, so less production makes sense. I noticed on the FORD GT factory racing version this year they are going to metallic colors. I wish they would go to the 1966-67 works colors. Gold(1016) and copper(1032) were my favorites like at the 1966 Lemans race.
     
  5. Sinovac

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    This is exactly right. Everyone thinks Ford makes a bunch of money on these cars when, in actuality, the people responsible for making the car happen are trying to hide the numbers from the accounting department. Cars like this aren’t made because they make money.

    “The best way to make a small fortune in racing is to start with a big one.”
    Junior Johnson
     
  6. SteveA

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    Dead on Sinovac.
     
  7. piratepress

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    Clarkson reviewed it on the new Grand Tour and said the suspension was "stiffer than Ron Jeremy!" ;)
     
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  8. Davesvt2000

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    Ah, I see, ok.
     
  9. SteveA

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    Very cool IMO but you can see how it added a few pounds.

     
  10. JOEA2

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    Is it Ford's or Multimatic's?

    Joe
     
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  12. LMPDesigner

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    It is a Multimatic concept thru and thru. And bloody unique and clever! Hardly "yawn" if you understand how it works and what it gives you. Nobody else anywhere on earth has a system that does what this does.
    Also -and only a tangent-the rocker system is also a bit clever. You have the pushrod working a bellcrank on the outside of the car carbon chassis. And then a small torque tubing going thru the chassis to another bellcrank inside of the car. And that one is connected to the damper. So the damper is actually inside the car. (It sits just above your foot). Done for packaging/aero reasons. And that was my solution to that problem!
     
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  13. SteveA

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    If you read the name of the person that posted the vid it was I. The "yawn" comment was in response to Joe's tired old argument insinuating that the car is a Multimatic not a Ford. IMHO this car is a piece of artwork from start to finish and I can't wait to take delivery of this Ford product.
     
  14. LMPDesigner

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    Car is a Ford. Period.
     
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  15. LMPDesigner

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    SteveA:
    Congrats on getting one of these cars! You have bought a car that is such an experience that it is hard to describe. It is the single most "au point" sports car made. Ignore comparing performance numbers of any car to this car. The magic and soul of this car is in how and what it communicates when you drive it. In that sense it is the best car in the world. Enjoy it!
     
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  16. Jo Sta7

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    You’ll need to be right because on a pure numbers basis it won’t stack up well I fear.
     
  17. JOEA2

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    I am sorry that you are "tired", but the fact is that a lot of the technology did come from Multimatic. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

    Joe
     
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  18. F1tommy

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    You sound like a Brit. They always say Cosworth F1 motor instead of Ford Cosworth even though Ford controlled Cosworth F1 and ended up buying most of Cosworth (later sold) and Ford payed all the bills and played the political card to get rules pushed in their favor at times.

    FORD has by far the best international racing record of any American brand, and better than almost all international brands. They spent their racing budget well. Hell Toyota can't even win an F1 race :)
     
  19. JOEA2

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    Born and raised in Brooklyn, NY.

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  20. GuyIncognito

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  21. JOEA2

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    Now, if they would only let them race without the "leveling".

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  22. GuyIncognito

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    I agree. Prototype and GTLM should be "run what you brung" with a very thin rulebook.

    I get BoP for GT3 when you're trying to encourage manufacturers to build/sell cars, and amateurs to buy/campaign them. but it would be more entertaining to see the pro classes opened up a bit. or a lot.
     
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    Wow! That rear diffuser looks like it could plow a field on a farm!
     
  24. joker57676

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    Yes. So much yes.
     
  25. dbk

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    "The Ford GT’s currency is speed, traded on the exchanges of ACO, WEC, and IMSA. Based on the asking price, its brokers—the 1000 hand-picked applicants who will be allowed to buy the car over the next four years—should have the means to make a track day happen. Whether they choose Virginia International Raceway’s 4.1-mile Grand West Course thrill ride is up to them. For us, it is the obvious choice. We’ve been lapping cars there for more than a decade; we brought the GT to VIR now because we couldn’t secure one to run in 2017’s Lightning Lap 11, and we wanted to make this car part of the official record. The GT at VIR is, in one word, fastest. As in, fastest-lap-we’ve-ever-recorded fastest."

    Done in one day whereas they typically take 3 days to acclimate. Their estimation is they could potentially drop "seconds" with time together with the car, which they certainly could because I know what a pro has done there and it is much faster.

    I guess it's not so terribly slow after all. Wonder if it's worth keeping.
     

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